They're trying hard to change it. Almost like they have a playbook of some kind...

I never thought of it like that. Fuck, that's depressing.

the moment maga calls something woke... I embrace that game/tvshow/movie/book. they all turn out to be pretty good (other than a few gacha games)

Yeah, loopy religious people who want to take society back to the middle ages.

it applied to all SCI fi show both pre-STD(DISCOVERY) thats what really got thier panties in a wad, when kurtzman made all the women have lead roles.SG1 wasnt spared either, as recently Invincible was called woke, just because the female general in coalition took command of the ship (the planet of ragnarrs) to refreeze the beasts.

there was definitely a concerted effort around 2020(thats when woke became super prominent in comments of shows like star trek) around election time to illicit more voters to side with conservatives through propaganda.

Pretty sure "woke DEI crap" is universally understood as pandering. And everyone is pissed at stories being written specifically to scream woke crap at you instead of just incorporating diversity in, as it fits the story itself, and moving on with a good show.

Yeah, I always thought he was kind of a douche, but I guess his heart is in the right place.

I recently learned that Shatner and Takei don't actually use social media and all the posts you see from them are just some employees that were instructed to speak in their style.

Yeah. I wish people like him, sulu, and stephen king would abandon it already though.

Their utopia also highly resembles communism as a classless, stateless society

i think what got thier panties in a wad was STD, because it had a certain demographic playing lead roles over men. then it became DOCTOR WHO, whittaker and then ncuti(but him mostly), why because a certain election was under way that year, while STD was in thier 1st/2nd season, and it annoyed the hell of cons with all the women in the lead roles and then they started attacking every trek video they see. Janeway wasnt SPARED TOO but that took years for them to use mental gymanstics.

Back in 1965.

I believe it was also an old Shatner tweet (well, if memory serves, he technically asked when it got political) Surprised to see this shift from him. It’s a welcome one but I’m still not sure if I should trust this.

The gender episode was so ahead of its time. It introduced some ideas that I didn't even know there were concepts for.

"You said 'class warfare' twice."

"He likes class warfare."

the gender ran across 4 series. DS9 had jadzia(other host) preferred women and shes a women still with those feelings, and another where a female dominant race from the gamma quadrant fled DS9 through the wormhomle, and a similar one on enterprise show(where the explosion disaster caused by the suliban), Genderless insectoid Xindi.

Nutrek through kurtzman isnt very good and not very subtle with exposing mysogyny/genderphobia .

Hey see - that wonderful thing in the past is similar in some way to the dogshit we produce now. Therfore the problem is you!

Why would you even complain about that in the first place?

People tend to think that "forced diversity" is something being pushed from the top, but the people who own Hollywood are literally paying money to the right wing who limits diversity.

My personal belief is that there are simply a lot of homosexuals and trans people in the art world. Whether it be make up artists, actors or screenwriters, i think aaaaall of this is a lot more normal amongst creatives than it is among the regular population.

So obviously, its gonna show up more in movies and shows, than in real life. Because the people making the art knows these actual people.

People tend to forget when watching a movie, that just like when looking at a painting, they are in fact watching someone else art, and they are welcome to just not look at it, or find artists that more aligned with their bigoted views.

Star Trek (TOS) never needed to BE about diversity, because it was set in a utopian future where racism, and sexism weren't problems anymore. You had an entire multi-racial cast on the bridge of a starship so just from THAT you knew that racism wasn't a problem in the future. There was no more war, poverty, disease or crime. Conflict only came from humanity's meetings with alien races.

TOS Star Trek never needed to beat you over the head every 5 minutes with how gay someone was because that wasn't a problem in the 23rd century. Nobody gave a shit.

Except people weren't complaining about forced diversity, which is also known as "representation".