Nine people hospitalised and airport closed after landing plane hits fire truck responding to separate incident

The pilot and co-pilot of an Air Canada Express regional jet have been killed after it collided with a fire truck while landing at New York’s LaGuardia airport, in an incident that closed the airport.

The collision also caused serious injuries with nine people in hospital. It happened as a firefighting vehicle was responding to a separate incident, according to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs the airport.

The Air Canada Express CRJ-900 plane, operated by its partner Jazz Aviation, was carrying 72 passengers and four crew members from Montreal, based on a preliminary passenger list that remained subject to confirmation. Jazz is owned by Chorus Aviation.

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[–] 112 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Can't wait to see the reporting on how fucked up their air traffic control system is from Trump's cuts.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    They'll either release a report that shows 1000% improvement in operating efficiency with negative incidents because they can do no wrong, or they'll never release another report again.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago

    Straight from Leavitt: "Our glorious leader has improved the Air Traffic Control system by 1000% it has never been this safe to fly, ever. We will build a monumental airport in his name. Thank you for your attention in this matter."

    Probably.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    To the honest, no matter how much he fucked it up, it was pretty fucked up in the beginning. That system is ancient iirc.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago*

    Yeah, Reagan functionally broke the system and every president and party since then has made tiny tweaks at best, this type of understaffing was common under Biden and Obama as well. Its just hit its breaking point.

    Pretending this is a Trump only issue is covering for a whole lot of people who share the blame in addition to Trump.

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  • [–] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    ATC mistake causes collision killing two pilots and injuring a dozen more.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    A dozen more pilots were injured?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    They came home with 12 gallons of milk because they had eggs.

    ——-

    A wife sends her programmer husband to the store. 

    She says, "Buy a gallon of milk. If they have eggs, get a dozen."

    When the husband returns, he's carrying twelve gallons of milk?

    "Why did you buy twelve gallons of milk" asks the wife.

    "Because they had eggs" says the husband.

    94·20

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  • [–] 52 points 7 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 44 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The controller was working both Tower and Ground frequencies at the time of the collision. At a busy airport like LaGuardia, that's incredibly unsafe, IMO. Something grabbing his attention on Ground distracted him from this developing situation on his Tower responsibilities, and that's all it took. He tried to then stop it, but it was too late.

    He's going to live with what happened for the rest of his life. I feel deeply sad for him. It's not even really his fault. He was put in a situation where any human is likely to fail sooner or later.

    The US's air infrastructure (along with a lot of other infrastructure) has been going downhill since the Reagan administration. The US needs a 2-3x investment in the FAA 10 years or so ago.

    I haven't travelled to the US since Feb 2020, and I'm not going to (even for work) for multiple reasons at this point: the continued deterioration of the FAA's systems is one major one.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    These preventable deaths are a direct result of Trump's decisions. Trump, this one man, is responsible for so many fucking innocent deaths, he should be pulled out of a burning white house and killed by public hanging along with every single person of his administration and every republican and democrat that enabled him.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I’d like to douse him in gasoline, light the match, and watch the motherfucker burn. After that, I will put his ashes in a toilet, take a big shit and piss on them, then flush him away for eternity.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Expect more situations like this to happen as the ruling class continues to cut corners in order to maintain its profits and standard of living.

    The only solution going forward is revolution.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I can avoid travelling to the US or other states that want to kill me actively or by negligence.

    At what point do pilots and other people who go there because it's their job, stop going there I wonder.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago

    They don’t have to pay the TSA agents if the airport is closed!

    taps head meme

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    In fairness to the problem, it's been going on far longer than that. DOGE certainly didn't help, but this has been an issue for quite a long time.

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  • [–] 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Its been an issue since... Oh, right. Reagan.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    To quote a favorite Youtuber of mine "And this dates back to... Oh right. Ronald Fuckin' Reagan."

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    I wonder how much before they deem USA too unsafe to operate in.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    The chief engineer who runs the airports in the NYC area has publicly stated that air operations aren't under his purview for CYA reasons.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    “After” seems like the wrong preposition in the headline. Feels like “killed in” or “died after” would be less confusing. Anyway, sad for the people involved.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    After the collision, the wounded passengers murdered the pilots for their mistakes. I don't know why that's so ambiguous.

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  • [–] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The Air Canada pilots were not at fault.

    The air traffic controller directed a firetruck across the runway while the plane was landing.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The pilot and copilot died because the single ATC controller was overwhelmed trying to handle two frequencies and an emergency with another plane on the ground. ATC accidentally cleared the fire truck to cross the runway where the plane was landing.

    Here's audio from all of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbm-QJAAzNY

    You can hear ATC desperately trying to stop the truck.

    The dead pilot and copilot did nothing wrong, certainly not from the initial information we have so far.

    I can understand trying to be funny, but I really don't see the humour here. Seems in very very poor taste to me.

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  • [+] -12 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    My heart goes out for all involved but unfortunately that's what happens when you elect a socialist mayor.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    Lol, how do folks not see this as sarcasm?

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Living in a country where some people would say it sincerely

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, but this is Lemmy and this dude is known here. Context should play a part.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Are we expected to read every user's name? Looking at the example, I'm even more sure that skipping them is the right choice.

    Maybe the community is also not that small anymore, with everyone knowing certain accounts.

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