I have always been in both camps.

I have always held to a strict code of, "make no profit".

I share what I have, and sell nothing. not even at cost.

IP rights are important, but there is zero harm sharing IP freely. it's no different than watching a movie from a public library.

Once you start selling though, is when you cross a line of profiting off of someone else's hard work.

AI crossed that line.

Why buy when can steal?

https://webbed-briefs.teemill.com/product/you-would-not/

In case you're not aware, it's making fun of the You Wouldn't Steal a Car ad campaign from the MPAA in 2004.

Because current material conditions require that workers hold a copyright on their productions lest they be denied compensation required for survival under our capitalist system.

You don’t stop paying rent just because housing should be a right.

We all know what the better system should be, but we need to get there.

i would be against IP iff society took care of everyone and authors and inventors could write and design and not worry about material needs.

also if they could just get dune buggies whenever they wanted. when society does that, i'll be in favor of abolishing IP law. until then, IP law provides me with dune buggy money via pathetic royalties from the cds i recorded. i get pennies a year dammit. pennies!

Humanity is built on sharing, cooperation and community.

Was.

Yes, we all benefit when knowledge is shared. Until gathering that knowledge is cost-free, there's a compensation requirement for expertise.

And any point in time when corps want to take the knowledge and lock it up to monetize it, we especially need to bring out intellectual property laws to keep our knowledge open and free.

World book, Webster's dictionary and the Bible are user-pay repositories of very curated knowledge, for instance. If you're basing your opinion on these as mechanisms for sharing our collective experience, understand they don't freely share free info -- that both freedoms aren't present.

Imagine all the knowledge we gained and lost before we invented writing. Some of it probably got relearned, or survived orally until someone wrote it down, but there’s undoubtedly human knowledge that has ceased to exist. Like how to hunt mammoths. At best we speculate and use clues to reconstruct, but we still don’t know in a manner that would have been taught generation to generation among people who relied on them.

It's fine to use the sum total of human knowledge for an AI chat bot, but then that AI chat bot is everyone's chat bot and you shouldn't be able to charge for it. Sure you put some work into it, but so did every other human ..

You have me thinking of how awesome it would be if something like Our Robocop Remake was made for Game of Thrones. The movie was split up into scenes and different indie directors did each scene. It was disjointed and hilarious. I want to see that scene you mentioned with Bran except he starts flying after he gets pushed out.