Fine with me. Also the SAVE act must not pass. 85% of married women WILL NOT be able to vote. Plain and simple.
This is a great way to attack our right to vote and Republicans hate women, so they would love for women not to be able to vote again.
Fine with me. Also the SAVE act must not pass. 85% of married women WILL NOT be able to vote. Plain and simple.
This is a great way to attack our right to vote and Republicans hate women, so they would love for women not to be able to vote again.
.... good?
Better headline: President holds country hostage until he gets what he wants.
Should somebody tell him about the 10 days thing, or should we let it be a fun surprise?
Oh NO! The President NOT Signing bills that the Majority of Americans HATE in an Election year is a TERRIBLE Threat! Quick! PASS the SAVE Act!
-Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries!
Is he also refusing to eat his vegetables?
I'm joking, as if he's ever eaten a vegetable.
A president refusing to do their duty should be impeached imo.
What's the outcome of impeachment? He has a higher number than he can count to, so what would be the point?
I believe there's an amendment to take care of that, it's the second one.
What's the magical number of impeachments you think would have any affect whatsoever? Words on pieces of paper do not mean a fucking thing, shit will keep getting worse until people realize this.
The SAVE Act passing is probably a good sign to leave the US.
no, you go out swinging... failure to stop it will allow for it to expand and you won't be able to keep running. it will come for you
My great grandparents came to this country in the early 20th century fleeing fascism in Europe. It was their decision to leave that kept them and their family alive. Their friends that stayed weren't as lucky.
I've always wondered what caused them to make up their minds. What was the final straw that snapped that made them say "We need to leave for our safety, there's no hope of stopping what will come."
Ever since they announced this bill, I think I found my equivalent. If this thing passes, there's no saving the country. The DNC simply won't act to mitigate its damage, I've seen how they work. The only outcome after that isn't total fascist rule is violent and bloody civil war. And, frankly, I don't trust Americans to fix the country however that war would shake out.
I think I'd just rather try my luck elsewhere.
FWIW America managed to cobble together an America that lasted 161 years after the first civil war.
That’s not that bad honestly, so, it could be done again…
161 years is NOTHING for a country. Almost all other major nations are a millenium or older.
The city I lived in before this one was founded in 1776 and the one I live in now is about a thousand years older. We have buildings still standing that are 5 times as old as the US or older.
True, but how stable has the actual government been through that time? Cities almost universally live through many governments throughout their existence.
This goes for nations, one clue here is they used to be called kingdoms with a very different form of government from many nations today.
Also if you do some research on this you find that the United States has one of the longest running constitutional democracies in the world.
So while 161 years might not seem like much in the arc of history, as far as democracy goes it’s nothing to sneeze at.
Also if you do some research on this you find that the United States has one of the longest running constitutional democracies in the world.
The US constitution is the second oldest active constitution in the world.
The oldest is the constitution for the US state of Massachusetts.
My house is from 1779. Not quite the age of the US, but I think the house will win in the end.
It's not worth fighting for. It always has and still is a land of thieving, lying bastards. You can die for it if you want. I'd rather just go.
You're missing one major difference here though. America was the exception to most every part of the world during WW2. It was the only major power that was not victim to massive bombing campaigns or direct on the ground warfare.
There is no such place to flee to today. China, maybe, for the time being.
Fleeing was the best choice for your grandparents. But that doesn't mean it is for you or I. Your grandparents didn't have the "perfect" line that they decided to leave at. They didn't even make a perfect calculated choice on where to flee to. Your grandparents, to put it bluntly, were lucky. And, well, if your grandparents were fleeing Japan instead of Europe they would have been met with significantly different treatment when coming to America at that time and have likely died in a camp.
You're looking at their decisions with hindsight and trying to project them onto a world that is entering an entirely different world war.
I wish you the best. And I can't say any decision is better than another. But, I don't think you can either. We all have to hope we are as lucky are your grandparents were.
And at the end of the day. None of will be "lucky" if no one stands up to fight back.
This time around there's no fleeing to somewhere safe, the baddies have knife missiles that can hit you anywhere you run to.
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
I think he has to try to return the bill in order for "adjournment to count as veto".
Should just be called SAVE PEDOnald Act.
Not signing anything while congress is in session means it becomes law within ten non-sunday days.
Not that I would ever expect him to know that.
That said, I also wouldn't mind if he vetoed every partisan line bill coming out of this congress, either.
Also, if this asshole ends voting by mail in Colorado, there are going to be a whole lot of absolutely LIVID people.
Voting by mail is so nice too. I voted in person in NJ a few years back and I ended up waiting for ~2 hours after work. Now I vote by mail and waste no time.
Yeah, the idea of being able to sit there, quietly, at your own house and fill out your form at your own leisure and research each proposal is great.
research each proposal
There's nothing stopping you from researching each proposal before going to vote at a polling place. The items on the ballot are not secret.
It's very worrying to me how many times I have seen this.
Yeah, and with mail-in I can take my time and do all of it at home. No need to try to memorize which way to vote on what or take some crib sheet with me.
It's a delight.
Especially when the questions are written in a way to make your second-guess your choice.
As far as I'm aware, all 50 states let you bring a "cheat sheet" into the Voting booth. Do your research at home at your own pace, write down your choices for each item, and bring that sheet into the booth with you.
I agree that vote by mail should be universal, but lack of it isn't an excuse to be uninformed at the polls.
I mean you CAN but it's much nicer to do it from home with the ballot in front of you and really take your time. I don't know why it's concerning. I've done both, I prefer at home.
i mean, for as long as i can remember in california have they given us a sample ballot we can take in with us, now they just give us our real ballot too
This conversation is about the advantages of mail-in ballots. Being able to research ballots ahead of time is not an advantage of mail-in ballots. In either case, you can have the ballot in front of you (either a sample ballot or a real ballot) and you are able take all the time you need to do your researching.
For someone to say that being able to research ballots ahead of time is an advantage of mail-in ballots suggests that there are people showing up polling places and realizing that they have no idea how they want to vote, resulting in them having to frantically research the issues and candidates on their phones at the polling booth or fill it out without being well informed. And that is worrying.
Last time there was a simple choice:
1)First woman president who is also representing various minority groups.
2)A pedophile criminal convicted and indicted in many occasions. Paid off Stormy Daniels to suck his little peepee. Possibly murdered a baby and several women who he abused as kids. Worse show on NBC where everyone hoped he would get fired. Disrespectful to everyone, specially women.
OK sure, which is why I voted for Harris. Now why are you telling me this? It seems to have nothing to do with mail-in ballots.
For someone to say that being able to research ballots ahead of time is an advantage of mail-in ballots suggests that there are people showing up polling places and realizing that they have no idea how they want to vote, resulting in them having to frantically research the issues and candidates on their phones at the polling booth or fill it out without being well informed. And that is worrying.
Well, yeah. Without mail-in voting that is something that is going to happen.
With mail-in voting, it becomes more like an open book test for those that want to look into things. Plenty of time to research things and fill it out at the same time, and at a relaxed pace. Versus some kind of frantic pop quiz at the tail end of a multi-hour wait in line.
I sure hope voters that have to vote in-person plan ahead, do research ahead of time and bring notes if they need them. I somehow doubt that all do.
I absolutely does not matter. Those people are too fucking lazy to put up any kind of a fight for their country. trump is going to continue to take lives and liberty and no one is going to do a damn thing.
im so fucking ashamed of how lazy and pathetic americans are.
Do we need new laws before impeachment?
I've find it hilarious if they were to override this lame duck's veto.
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