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[–] 200 points 8 months ago (12 children)

If Iran were to destroy Mar A Lago, I think we could let it slide.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Even if it's a target that's not widely popular, it will be used to push policies that hurt the people of the US more.

    That's how we got the patriot act.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    Don't care. As long as that shit-stain is in power, damage mitigation just plays into his hands.

    The US is plagued by a cancer, and there's no way to excise it without further casualties. The only hope we have is chemotherapy and the hope that when the smoke clears it's the patient that survives.

    Apathetic, moronic accelerationists set us on that path. The consolation is that a bunch of THEM will assuredly suffer too.

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  • [–] 151 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    Trump is just trying to bring more people onto the side of supporting his illegal war on Iran by proposing an unrealistic risk of danger to the U.S.

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  • [–] 136 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    A danger that he totally incited in the first place by being a bloodthirty moron.

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  • [–] 58 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I say he is preparing the people for an ‘act of terror by Iran’, meaning there is going to be a false flag incident. He can then use that to claim war powers and dismantle the last sliver of US-American democracy.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    the problem is that the reason the folks on US soil have such.. douche hubris is because we’ve never got our teeth kicked in because there are a couple of oceans guarding us.

    it is only temporary “unrealistic” a danger, Iran will figure it out and another 9/11 will happen and.. queue up the enrollment and bootlicking country songs for 20 years.

    All the while … profit, massive profit, is had.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    unrealistic risk of danger to the U.S.

    Bro...

    Have you seen the people in charge of anti-terrorism?!

    It's a bigger miracle we haven't had a serious attack in the last year than it was that not a single hurricane made landfall last year.

    We can't handle any type of disaster, and even routine shit are realistic risks of danger.

    Risk of terrorist attack is sky high and it would likely be something huge that gets thru.

    But...

    trump isn't doing anything, he's not driving the bus and hasn't been for a while. The people who tell him what to do/say are trying to normalize American deaths to him.

    And because he's trump and he just repeats what people told him a second ago, that's what he did when he went on camera.

    He's never concerned about something or trying to reassure anyone. Whatever he blabbers about is what people were saying to him moments ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Same with the religious spin ‘this is a holy war’ crap. If you frame this as god’s plan, then being against the war is being against said plan and god. This is an attempt to bring back the Republicans who naturally oppose this war.

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  • [–] 110 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    False flag attacks are coming. Mark my words.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    .... maybe?

    With the disclaimer that I'm not at all sad that Khomeini was a casualty, Trump's illegal war against Iran is set to provoke some real attacks in, probably, quite short order.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They need some time to figure out the perfect place to be attacked so billions of dollars can go unaccounted for in the cleanup efforts.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    They really don't though, they could do that with any disaster or for no reason at all. Hell Kristi Noem spent almost a quarter of a billion dollars on ads for herself that were paid to some company related to her.

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  • [–] 105 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Incoming. One Trump Sponsored false flag act of terrorism coming up.

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    [–] 75 points 8 months ago

    real farquaad energy here

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  • [–] 58 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Hilarious watching them push "this isn't a war" over and over again just for Trump to constantly call it a war.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago

    Why would this be a shock to anyone? He let hundreds of thousands of Americans die to covid.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    He's super nonchalant about it. This is how politicians actually feel when they know you're struggling/suffering. There is no feeling.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Of course he is. The people at risk aren't trump, or anyone that risks anything for trump or his family.

    If Trump could press a button that would kill 10 million people, maim another 5 million, and make 50 million people go from middle class to abject poverty, in order to give him 10 billion $ and more power, he'd press that button without hesitation.

    Total no brainer for him. And Americans are just letting get away with destroying democracy and destroying their freedom, and way of life, so HE can have more.

    They seem upset, complain on social media, but do nothing. Not even boycotting. They just sit in their echo chambers. They dont organize. They don't protest on congress' front lawn, they hardly boycott, even after seeing it work for Kimmel.

    The citizens of america are failing the world.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I hear what you are saying my friend... I(US citizen) am not happy with what is going on, but what can I really do to make a change? I vote, and other than that, I work 50-60 hours a week to try and support my family and try to teach them to be good and do the right things. I dont have the time or resources to go protest in Washington.... Im working my ass off to suport my family. The system here sucks and was built by others before my time. Do you want me to grab my guns and go battle ICE/the government single handedly and leave my kids to fend for themselves? Im just trying to get by. I havent been to a doctor in decades because I cant afford it... I send my kids instead, because that is more important to me. So you can sit on the sideline and say I am doing nothing, but Im voting and hoping for the best, but I cant battle the government corruption single handedly while I am trying to keep my kids alive and healthy. Tell me what to do. PLEASE!!!!

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    There are so many of you with this exact same sentiment on every comment related to this topic. Imagine what you could do if you were organised.

    I don't think any of us have the answer for you, aside from casually pointing out that 2A is meant for more than the classroom, and if none of you do anything you'll be raising your kids in a fascist theocracy within the decade.

    They're actively fighting to get voter registry information. Why do you think that is?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    You need to get together with like minded people. In real life. Find people that think like you do, and get together, and plan together. Create funding. Start meetings. Go to political get together when you can, or organize funding and donate to that. Go to freedom fighting political parties and ask to help or volunteer, or whatever to get together in real life. Sacrifice for it. Be tired for it. Miss your leisure for it. Boycott maga friendly companies. Companies want money. If trump is in power they can pay trump to let them break the law and have more money. That includes removing your rights. So, fascism is profitable for them, at your expense. No taxes, no worker rights. If you continue using their products or platforms or whatever, then destroying your freedom is most profitable to them. You need to sacrifice, and go on a fast of your favourite things to hurt their bottom line. You need to make sure what's most profitable is freedom. Because if they attack it, nobody buys there. Or watches their shows, ir uses their social media.

    You as an individual, you need to do that, even if you're alone. And you need to tell everyone else to do the same. Only use and shop at companies dont threaten your freedom or democracy. Even if it tanks your economy. You have to be cold hearted and vicious with it. And choose sacrifice for freedom. You alone won't make a dent. But you cant think loke that, and you cant tolerate that others do. You need to talk the talk, and walk the walk. And you need to protest in front of congress. Create funding, organize, and youll have funding to be able to go without work, or make billboards, or get buses so people can protest in Washington from all around.

    Build it, and hurry up. You aren't powerless. But even if you're alone, act as though everyone will do as do. Encourage it, and make the sacrifice yourself.

    They are brainwashing people with meta and twitter and tiktok. The big american companies are working to take your freedom. Don't give them money. If their stock is projected to fall, it loses so much value.

    If you give giving them your money, you're fucked.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Being politically active is so much more than just voting. So many options to do more. You can write to your representatives or call them. You can donate to NGOs fighting for what you believe in. You can be vocal in your opinion on the internet or towards colleagues, friends and family. You can take part in demonstrations or even organise. And a lot of other options.

    The mentality of "I vote, what more can I do" is so defeatist and a huge part of the reason why the political right wing can do what they do.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    No one rational expects you or any other US citizen to grab guns.

    We get that you personally, voted.

    Unfortunately though, you and other US citizens like you are going to have to risk those jobs and that healthcare and go into a sustained national shutdown. Here is what is expected; the US citizens start doing something to fix this problem.

    It’s unfortunate because those you need to lead such things and give direction, like Democrat reps, popular personalities, past presidents, none want to step up to the plate and lead it. The truth is, the administration really does reflect the nation in so many ways. A third care, a third don’t and most of that third along with the third that support are lazy, selfish people.

    But no, I for one certainly don’t expect you to go out and battle ICE et al with your firearms. That’s the hardest, most awful way. The easiest was voting, the next now is a peaceful shutdown to get the houses to act. Yes it’ll be hard and yes, it’s easy for us not having to do it to say it but you’ve seen already how some nations like the French react to it, we’d be doing the same.

    You’re the only ones can do it too, none of us can help here because he was elected and we couldn’t anyway. If I lived there, in your shoes, I’d start with writing your nearest Dem reps and any influential people you can to start leading it. That’s something.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago

    "Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago

    Spoken like a man secure in the idea that they won’t make it through to him.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago

    they’ll either allow an attack or stage one so they have a reason to skip the midterms.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I hope this acceptable risk becomes him.

    Like a certain Charles Kirk

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Charlie who? Never heard that name before. Must not have done anything important in their life.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Some people say they want a terror attack, to get emergency declarations and steal the midterms. I just hope this is not true. A lot of innocent people would die for few remain in power. I don’t know what to believe anymore.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago

    Fascists are in power. That's enough to believe in while you go look for historical examples of fascists being peacefully voted out of office. That ought to keep you busy until oh, his fourth term.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "and that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, some real classic Trump being Zapp Brannigan shit right there...

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    "Oh noooo, the Reichstag is on fire!"

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    The Reichstag fire (German: Reichstagsbrand, pronounced [ˈʁaɪçstaːksˌbʁant] ⓘ) was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday, 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. Marinus van der Lubbe, a Dutch council communist, was said to be the culprit; the Nazis attributed the fire to a group of Communist agitators, used it as a pretext to claim that Communists were plotting against the German government, and induced President Paul von Hindenburg to issue the Reichstag Fire Decree suspending civil liberties and pursue a "ruthless confrontation" with the Communists.[1] This made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi rule in Germany.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    imports domesticated bear

    slaps a bear

    See guys? I TOLD you this area was filled with angry bears!

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  • The follow-up is, "Why?"

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago
    [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So this is the moment then when the 2A Magats will take their guns and go for justice, right?

    Right?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It would be the stupidest thing they could possibly do. The war has like a 20% approval rate. If they attacked on American soil the cowboys would flood the enlistment offices.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Hopefully, he will be one of them.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    If I were in charge of Iran and the "Death to America" club, I would have had cells in the USA since the 50s.

    It's a given. How many have evaded detection?

    With modern technology that allows unlimited surveillance, it would be very difficult, but not impossible by any means.

    Have we truly accounted for all of the nukes after fall of USSR? We'll find out shortly.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Let’s just put this out there. If Iranian cells want to hurt Republicans? I won’t bat an eye. Just don’t hurt non-Republicans. You two can have it out.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Iran will attack US soil or the gov will do it themselves as justification to cancel the mid-terms

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Lord Farquad everybody...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Fuck you Zap Brannigan.

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