This is what happens when your military is lead by whiskey leaks and the fat man.

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[–] [S] 107 points 8 months ago (22 children)

So how is this supposed to bring prices down again?

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I don't know, but how's the DOW? 

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Down another 500 as of today.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    How much does a fighter jet cost? A thousand dollars?

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  • [–] 80 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I did the calculation and not factoring any fuel, ammo or maintenance, or the missiles that shit them down, each of these planes was worth about 7,500 years of healthcare for a single person

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    About $300 million dollars shot down.

    “Oops.”

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why would the people at the top of this circus care about a measley $300M when they can just tax the poor and cut essential social services in order to expand the military budget an extra $500B?

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    """Friendly fire incident"""

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Let me guess, Claude said to shoot them down.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago*

    I think that was a friendly plane

    You're absolutely right, that was indeed a friendly American f-15 plane we shot down. Would you like me to make a note not to shoot friendly planes in the future? ⚡ 💪

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Holy fucking shit, the "never shot down in combat" streak of the F-15 is over?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    It's not that impressive considering it came into service after Vietnam which is the last time the US faced an enemy with a real air force and effective air defenses. Not to mention the fact that the cheaper more numerous F16 has been the real work horse (and cannon fodder) of the USAF since then.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (7 children)
  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I am not aware of any F-15s having been shot down in any way before today. They blow up by themselves or snap in two sometimes but that's par for the course for any fighter jet.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Just did a quick search, and it looks like a handful were shot down during desert storm. Interestingly, 1 was shot down via sidewinder accidentally fired by a wingman during training. So, I guess the true statement should be, "never lost a dogfight?"

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    when was the last dogfight tho, ww1?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Vietnam had tons of them, enough to force F-4s to get gun pods since missiles were not ready.

    Pretty sure there were dogfights in Iraq vs Iran and India vs Pakistan conflicts.

    The lack of dogfights in USA's last wars are due to overwhelming differences in numbers leading to the weaker air force trying to avoid confrontation in general.

    If stealth really works it certainly will favor dogfights versus bvr combat.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Yeah the two gulf of Sidra incidents in 1980s are the only time US pilots have seen actual "dog fighting" since Vietnam.

    Each fight lasted seconds and only involved only two aircraft on each side but because they're the only aerial fight the US has had post-Vietnam these two incidents are treated like the Battle of Midway or something. lol

    Entire fucking books have been written on them, tactical "strategies" and techniques developed on them. Even had goddamn movies (Top Gun) made to commemorate these shoot down incidents. lol

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Missile striking aircraft: My tax dollars in action

    Aircraft being struck by missile: Also my tax dollars in action

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    Oh good I’m sure this will help lower the price of groceries and gas.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    But hey, on the plus side, that means US tax dollars will have to be spent replacing these planes and that will increase GDP!

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I am all aboard the Keynesian train, government spending stimulates the economy for sure. Could we maybe try spending the money on roads, bridges, education, healthcare, or even just a stupidly huge purposeless gigantic monument instead of engaging in fucking omnicide

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    lol no way bro. There's nothing more productive that an overengineered overpriced overpowered tool of destruction!

    slaps roof of f-15 this baby here can fit so much omnicide in it.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Well, in bad lighting, they can look like Venezuelan fishing boats, so ...

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Proper IFF and allied coordination is too woke for Petey.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Yeah right and those two jets just fell off the USS Harry Truman last year, accidents happen! 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago*

    Great allies there. Did they forget to inform Kuwait about the action?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Kuwait right now

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    With some friendly fire, that's a funny term, like civil war. 

    -- Sage Francis

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I'd say "call in the clowns" but we already did that.

    Disgrace of a nation.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Donald Trump's fault. All of this is his fault.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Kuwait probably had their twitter account banned or they might have known

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    US military is striving for Russia-level military (in)competency.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Lemme guess... AI was involved...

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    More please

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Too bad the pilots are okay.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    Would hoping the pilots died or were permanently disabled get someone banned here? Asking for a friend.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    This may be Kuwaiti protest against US operations there. Kuwaiti air defense friendly fire is official Pentagon claim, and 3 starts to break the coincidence explanation. While propaganda narratives are that all of the Gulf states are about to go full zionazi against Iran, they generally do not want to get hit more than to eliminate Iran. Abu Dhabi stationed US planes fleeing the region is sign of quiet cooperation with Iran to remove targets on their back.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Probably just a mistake, especially likely since Iran also had (or used to have?) F-15s of their own. Still really bad communications wise.

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