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[–] 117 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Like the other - date on this? Would add context.

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  • [–] 95 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    What the actual fuck. This is straight from Anne Frank's diary, just change their coats.

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  • [–] 83 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Except in the case of Bovino where you don't even have to change the fucking coat 🤦

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    You noticed that too, huh. You’d think it’d make the news or something.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    it did. this tweet is about a month old

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Cool, cool. Hey can you link that article? Kthx.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    unfortunately i'm having a touch of trouble finding the articles that documented what the protestors were responding to, so i'll get why you would think this saw no coverage. maaan i cannot stand this moratorium on info about ice operations. this is stuff i've been following closely so i'll try to save a link if i find something better

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  • [–] 54 points 8 months ago

    Actually heard from a colleague there that he was actively doing just that, at least a few weeks ago. Complete with the cloak and dagger about coordinating it offline and avoiding active patrols and protests that would similarly draw too much attention.

    Yes, awfully 1930s German scenario that happened there.

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    I learnt about this is school. I think the year was 1935...

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    and don't thing because the US is hosting world sport events they are any different than Germany at that time, because Germany held the Olympics in 1936, at the height of their nazi power

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  • [–] 87 points 8 months ago* (12 children)

    This is what your grandparents fought and died for to prevent from ever happening again.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Too bad our government was just like, we'll pardon your war crimes and forget you're a Nazi if you're good at science and can help us do science things better than other countries!

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Pretty much everyone has done this historically, fuck even Rome did it. Smart people are often times worth their weight in gold especially if they made life annoying for you and your army, so they basically fall into the category of war loot.

    Also it's usually a either you join us or we kill you situation.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this.

    To summerize:

    Russia "Okay, let's kill all the Germans."
    Britain "Oh, but then we're no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis."
    USA "Yeah, I don't think either of you understand the scale of this."

    And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for it.

    So that's why the Nuremberg trials only reached the top of the iceberg and millions of Nazis got away with no other punishment than memories of shame.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the government to check if that road is actually going to be built correctly. Even worse they through the secret service and military members into the same prison as islamic terrorists. So when the US left Iraq, those terrorists got access to people with a very particular set of skills.

    Really the only way to go about it, is to built up the alternative in the back, trial the worsed cases and keep the Nazis or whatever other evil group from gaining power.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Iraq did not collapse due to the Baath party members taking over. It collapsed due too few competent people in positions of power. That opened up the prisons and allowed the Baath party members to take over. Killing them would not have stopped Iraq from collapsing, when the US left.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Lmfao what ? First of all it's not Russia, it's the Soviet Union, whichh is an important discussion, and secondly they didn't want to kill all germans, but make sure denazification was fully done, with no risk of having a single nazi left in power.

    You're saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no need for anyone's approval in their denazification efforts, which was successful.

    Meanwhile nazis that werent notorious enough or part of the holocaust were basically put back in power in West Germany.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

    Soviet zone: From the beginning, denazification in the Soviet zone was considered a critical element of the transformation into a socialist society and was quickly and effectively implemented. Members of the Nazi Party and its organizations were often brutally beaten before being arrested and interned. The NKVD was directly in charge of this process and oversaw the camps. In 1948, the camps were placed under the same administration as the gulag in the Soviet government. According to official records, 122,600 people were interned; 34,700 of those interned in this process were considered to be Soviet citizens, with the rest being German

    Let's math: 122600-34700= 87900 Germans.

    Former Nazi officials quickly realized that they would face fewer obstacles and investigations in the zones controlled by the Western Allies. Many of them saw a chance to defect to the West on the pretext of anti-communism. Conditions in the internment camps were terrible, and between 42,000 and 80,000 prisoners died.

    Sure they never directly stated that they deliberately wanted to kill all the Nazi, but the result is still that they did kill a good chunk of them (between 50-90%) in the camps.

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  • [–] 42 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    STOP POSTING TWEETS WITHOUT DATE STAMPS!

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    Or memorize it/understand its location.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

    "In the United States of America".

    The birthplace of freedom and democracy. The beacon of light and justice in the world. So strange that it is happening over there. Who could have seen this coming?

    One could expect this to happen anywhere, but in the United States of America? No way.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming "We're number 1!" while they are drowning.

    Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I really prefer when people write "/s" for sarcasm. With Poe's Law and all it is virtually impossible to distinguish sarcasm on the written internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I know, I usually do.

    But with this I thought it was laid on thick enough so the people who read it as sarcasm read it as sarcasm and the people who don't deserve to live in confusion.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 8 months ago

    ALMOST 30 DAYS AGO! That's over seven hundred hours!

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  • [–] 46 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    Still waiting for US citizens to organize a nationwide strike that doesn’t end until ICE terror ends. What’s it gonna take?

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    The system is rigged against this. The majority are 2 weeks away from lights out or kicked out.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    So fight off the ones that would kick people out and replace the ones that would turn the lights off.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    "Just change the whole economic and governmental system you live under"

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, exactly, now you get it.

    It's either that or waiting for the fascists to murder you. So get to it.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "Just move a mountain with your hands" you first bud

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'm not American so I can't help directly.

    Still, while I obviously can't write here what I'm doing, I'm confident it qualifies as "me going first". If we were with more people, we could do more than make the news a couple times per year.

    So... you next?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The problem is that most of us that would protest are not in a financial position to do so. If I participate in a work strike, I won't make the money I need to pay my bills, I'll be evicted, I'll go hungry, I won't be able to feed the family or the pets I will go destitute long before actual change happens. I'm not just making sacrifices, I am making that decision for my whole family. And that's just the surface level changes. I cannot afford to leave where I am currently. I believe that is all by design and I am not even close to the minority situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I guess US citizens are then in a financial situation similar to what US foreign policy has encouraged in several regions of the world.

    Anyone can downvote all they want, but US interventionism has had terrible consequences that most US citizens are not even aware of, yet people push back, they resist, despite much greater poverty than most people in the US have to suffer.

    I’m confident that US citizens can eventually do something concrete against their most recent criminal regime, of which there have been many. We haven’t even yet seen the level of pushback that was mounted during the war on Vietnam, and armed thugs are out there killing your citizens and kidnapping people off the streets.

    I just hope that pushback comes sooner than later because history shows us that people outside the US tend to suffer much more due to US policy than people inside the US.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Some very good organization. That's a lot of people which means a lot of room for error.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I agree, but if given the choice between error and fascism, I’ll take error.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    May they all be free from this soon

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down?

    it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Land of the Free 😂

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's unbelievable that Minnesota Dems are trying to push though some of the worst gun grabbing legislature of the century. At the time nazis are literally at the front steps.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Lmfao I thought they meant eat the food jfc I am dumb. The worst part is, i've seen this tweet before, and I understood what it meant the first time. Pregnancy brain.

    This time. I figured neighborhood must be an app like uber eats, and they're saying just act like the food is for yourself.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    When you vote in racist people, racist things will happen.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Sooner they get this national shutdown done, the easier it is.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    The correct answer is... "I'm getting groceries, show me a judicial warrant or fuck off."

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  • [–] 57 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Because ICE famously adheres to jurisdictional boundaries?

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    You could search and replace a few words in Anne Frank's Diary and make it happen in Minneapolis today.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Gilead much?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Start delivering to us citizens. Accidentally go to leo or republican houses

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