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[–] 59 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

You know what conserves energy at nearly 100% efficiency?

A guillotine.

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  • [–] 85 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Think about how selfish marine life is, they live in water, water we could use to cool our AI data centers! Think about that!

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  • [–] 35 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    In a way, this whole planet is a datacenter, with the oceans as it's cooling system. We are the data.

    -Neil Degrass Tyson

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    This made me realize that it would be really hard to distinguish between a satirical NDT quote and something I have earnestly and profoundly thought to myself while 2 edibles into a nature documentary. And I'm not sure how to feel about that.

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  • [–] 55 points 8 months ago

    I have no idea if things are real or satire anymore...

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why do we need an orphanage in the first place? Is the Orphan Crushing Machine not working?

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  • [+] 35 points 8 months ago (11 children)
  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If we restructured society in a way that makes increases in efficiency benefit everyone I'd be fine with such things. The difference here is, however, that we don't live in such a society and that LLMs aren't actually useful or better at work that people are, it's just that managers and CEOs think they are. They will realize this in a few years after most of their software is fucked over and they'll have to hire actual developers to fix it.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Taylorist production has been tried, yielded objectively better results than the old production methods, and they were still scrapped. Workers wouldn't adapt to more efficient production methods without more pay, and it necessitates worker-managers to train other workers. Since the owners of the factory refuse to pay workers more, so it's DOA.

    Capitalism isn't rational, and can not become rational. "Increasing efficiency" means firing workers, not improving production. I know you maybe aren't arguing for more efficient capitalism, just saying it has been tried. Taylorism is the Esperanto of production. "Increasing efficiency," to the capitalists, means firing people, not making the system more rational.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It wasn't my goal at all to advocate for capitalism, an inherently abusive system :P

    Increases in efficiency should lead to less work required and a better life for everyone

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I had a suspicion you weren't advocating for capitalism. But just in case someone comes along and thinks "yeah make capitalism more efficient," I like to underline the fact that "efficiency" has a different meaning if someone is a worker than if someone is a capitalist.

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If it's stealing real jobs, perhaps it is time you should reconsider the 'doesn't work' perspective.

    It seems to work just fine my dude.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There are words I want to say, but I won't say them.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Did he actually say this..?

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    No, he didn't. Please, for your sake and ours, learn to search for facts yourself instead of asking strangers on the internet to do it for you.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I know how to search the Internet but believe or not if someone posts something which may or may not be real, either they can respond accordingly or someone else easily can, as you just proved.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Perhaps I was too harsh. My apologies. I'm just very worried about how people deal with information and truth recently.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I appreciate that. It is indeed a problem that people don't learn things for themselves, but in this case I wasn't planning to accept any response as gospel. It was more of a poorly communicated "did I miss something?"

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Well, given that it was posted in Memes, and after what he said the other day, it's pretty easy to determine that it is parody. However, I do sympathize, as we are living in an age where most headlines appear to have come out of The Onion a mere decade ago, but are in fact the reality we face today.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Me trying to figure out if the 5 year old orphan should be saved: "So the farmer must transport the wolf, goat, and cabbage across the river..."

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Better that than feeding his goddamn Artificial Stupidity company

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    You what saves water? Setting fires in orphanages. In today's Ted talk we're going to outline ways how orphans use up water that could be better used on chunguses. Big Chunguses. Chungodes. Hayden, what's the plural for Chungus and without that word were going to struggle grammatically and I'm not sure we can advance without it

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Okay almost had me. I can't believe he would argue in favor of helping orphans.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Actually had to make sure I wasn't on a NotTheOnion instance.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    children need to stop drinking water, selfish assholes.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Stupid orphans hogging all of that water, they should bring a lawsuit against them for endangering the supply needed for ai in having their place get on fire. It won't win but they can't pay for lawyers to defend it and they will go our of solvency and have to be dissoluted.

    Now why do the courts let the rich file cases that have no merit to force people that haven't done wrong to pay millions of dollars indefinitely to defend themselves from bad faith allegations by shitty abusive rich people? Because fuck you, that's why. Any more questions? /s

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I can't tell if this is real or not. It sounds ridiculous, but he does say some ridiculous things (like how millions of years of humanity have consumed more energy than four years of data centers...). But this just seems so comically ridiculous that I have trouble believing it.

    This is why I hate when people fail to make it clear when something is satire. When people get used to doubting everything they see, then suddenly when someone really does say something comically ridiculous no one believes it.

    I'll point it out from time to time and people will say "it's just a meme, don't take it so seriously." But we're supposed to be the rational and intellectually honest ones, no?

    So why cultivate a meme culture where we can be just as misleading and deceitful as the fascists? This isn't a fire-with-fire situation. Their goal is to rob us of our humanity; if we stoop to their level, they win.

    Even if he really did say this, my point stands, because of the simple fact that it's hard to believe at face value due to the prevalence of misleading memes. There's a line between disinformation and satire. Honest memes should make it clear which side of that line they fall on.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What he said was that training humans takes a lot of water too, in defense of AI. This is a shitpost take on that.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago

    Okay, but nowhere on the post does it say "the onion," "satire," "parody," or "spoof." It's presented as if it's news, "BREAKING:"

    My point is that if we make it impossible to tell the difference at a glance, then we're cultivating this mindset that whenever you see a post where an out-of-touch billionaire says something ludicrous, your reaction is to think "well it must be fake, no one would ever say that."

    And then when it's about something that someone really did say, such as the "millions of years of human evolution consumed more energy than a data center does in four years" crap, people are less likely to believe it when they see it as a headline.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    We dont always know everything at first glance. Expecting to leads to and cultivates a lack of intellectual curiosity. Being able to consider and arrive and conclusions and then seek corroborating evidence is a useful life skill for you to try and learn.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    That's a really strange way of trying to justify spreading misinformation in the form of cheeky memes.

    "Washing your hands is a good habit, so when you're sick you should cough on doorknobs because it will encourage good habits."

    "Women need to be careful about who they date, so men who act like total asses are really just encouraging them to think critically and practice careful consideration."

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    CPAP devices can recover water that you waste during breathing!

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If this is true: how disconnected from reality must you be to even say that sentence?

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