This app could potentially supplant Tik Tok overtime. As Tik Tok's censorship following it's acquisition by US investors such as Oracle, Silver Lake, and Abu Dhabi-based MGX, and UpScrolled already having questionable ethics, this may be the path forward.

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[–] 79 points 8 months ago (7 children)

It's getting there, but still needs a good amount of ui fixes. The below mentioned are my personal issues with the app.

  • scrolling is sometimes wonky with flicking to the next video and goes past 2 to 3 other videos
  • double-tapping to like is a sorely missed feature
  • tapping the home button should refresh the feed
  • using foldable cause issues with how things are displayed and sometimes causes a takeaway you back to there beginning of the feed

All this being said I still use it. They are making progress and I hope they keep going.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

    It needs an app (edit: that is available through Play store or the corresponding apple shop)

    And it needs to render uploaded videos to the maximum allowed file size. Regular people don't know how to make their videos smaller. I only managed to do it by uploading to you tube the then downloading it from there. Then it was small enough to to be uploaded to loops

    Also, easier sign up and more content

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    It has an app, it is kinda weird how you get it though. When you click tk join it gives you the choice of app. It's not on an app store for android. Not sure about apple. So for me updates dont seem to happen to it that I know of.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

    UpScrolled already having questionable ethics

    Which questionable ethics? I’m out of the loop.

    EDIT: I’m sorry but I’ll take this post and some of the allegations with a grain of salt. Your account is made in January 2026 and this is your first and only post. Your comments are only in here as well. However, I do hope you can clear up about which ethics are questionable on UpScrolled.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

    I've seen other people on Mastodon/Bluesky mention that the site takes an 'anti-censorship' approach to moderation, so there's a bunch of far right people doing Nazi stuff on there.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    That mixed with not having an algorithm, I've seen a lot of sexual stuff I was not looking for.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    That mixed with not having an algorithm

    Is not that a part of the advantage? You, the person, deciding what you want to see and follow. I think Mastodon and BlueSky are similar in that regard.

    I've seen a lot of sexual stuff I was not looking for.

    Follow the developer of the app and you’ll understand why;

    as you may already know, many bad actors are trying to flood the platform with all kinds of illegal and nasty content, for the obvious reasons. we are working around the clock to counter this. it will get better. we apologize for any disgusting content you may encounter while we fix this.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm fine with not having an algorithm I just don't feel the need to see some ladies twat unless I'm looking for that content specifically. I'm not saying the platform is bad, just it needs some work still.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm fine with not having an algorithm

    Then why even mentioning it (in a more negative than neutral tone)?

    I just don't feel the need to see some ladies twat unless I'm looking for that content specifically. I'm not saying the platform is bad, just it needs some work still.

    Whether you use the platform or not, does not really matter (to me). You are right the platform needs some work and they’re putting the work while being one of social media platform that’s being targeted by Zionists.

    I have written what, I wanted to write. I have shown the text and image the developer wrote. That’s about it. I’ll leave it at that, I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    I mentioned the algorithm BECAUSE that's why I saw sexual content. No algorithm means when I was scrolling the discover page, I was just getting the most recently uploaded content therefore, sexual content. To be fair, when I first signed up for TikTok back in the day that's what the algorithm tried to shove at me as well.

    I think it has potential as a platform, I still have it installed, I was just sharing my experience.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If it doesn't have an algorithm aren't you responsible for what you're seeing?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I have been on UpScrolled for about 23-25 days and have not seen any Nazi stuff. However, I keep my feed and the people I follow mainly about Anime and Palestine.

    If there’s indeed Nazi stuff on it, I hope the developer removes it. Zionism and Nazi are both insanely shit ideologies that should have never come to existence.

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  • [+] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    yeah I'm not sure Upscrolled is going to be an improvement over Tik Tok in the long run in any way. Not open source or federated, probably will be even easier for Trump-supporting billionaires to buy it than TT for example. Supporting Loops makes much more sense.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    I don't know what upscrolled is, but if it's not federated then who cares?

    You care enough to write about the specific app that, you don’t know about.

    Your account is 4 days old, that says enough. I won’t respond to you after this comment.

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    [–] 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Seems already pretty solid. Was testing a bit in the last days:
    https://loops.video/@ordos
    Still very few users. But this could change as soon as the app is available in the app stores.

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    I see your local profile here on fedia with no contact. When I try to click though I get a https warning. I don't have the app though...

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It would be amazing to ditch the company control and so. The main problem is that it's difficult to get users to join it. I mean just look at how many people still use reddit and discord.

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    [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder if it will function more like Vine?

    Maybe it's because I'm a decade older now, but Vine seemed awesome and I would jump on it for 10-20 minutes a day and have no problem putting it down, even forgetting to check it a week at a time.

    I haven't touched tik tok because it seems like it is much more toxic and addictive in comparison.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Tbf Lemmy is still lacking on many things like media(comics, games, tv shows, cartoons, anime/Manga etc), Reddit right now is THE place aside from niche sites specific to each median, but as for Discord I agree, alternatives are not so hard there... Lemmy is getting there though.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    "Get in loser we are going to open-source a turd"

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Is there porn yet? I've found the prevalence of pornography to be a good indicator of how free the speech is on any platform. If you can't see a titty, it's probably pretty canned.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I felt my back break when I went on the app and sorted by retro and saw stuff I didn't think was that old.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    That's cool, still not gonna consume short form media. Idk why people with the desire to have healthy online habits would appreciate this new product. It'll be slopped with politics and AI in no time like Lemmy is already suffering from.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    People don't want an addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, billionaire-owned platform.

    They want a addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, non-billionaire-owned platform ... Apparently.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    We don’t want a monarchy. We want a spectacle fueled capitalistic society.

    Is there some trend in humanity, where it’s like… we don’t care if we suffer so long as it’s not to the benefit of someone else? We gotta build our own suffering machines of culture instead? What’s up with that?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Is it so wrong to want to watch a funny video from time to time on the bus? IMO the best thing about loops, piefed or whatever is that there's so little on here that you can open your app of choice for about 30 minutes to an hour and then be done for the week.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Is it so wrong to just take a little hit of heroin from time to time?

    Short form content is actively making people dumber, causing speech impediments in kids by cause their parents and themselves are addicted to the dopamine hit of scrolling.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Are you going to ban alcohol as well because that's a neurotoxin?

    Maybe you put down the pop science magazine for five seconds and understand that a single study, or even five studies, does not a consensus make. You sound like moms against video games or whatever the hell like it was called it back in the 2000s.

    Also, great job completely ignoring the point about non-incorporated vectors for engaging with short form videos don't have enough content for you to continuously scroll.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not sure about OP, but I think that yes, end goal should be banning alcohol consumption completely.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is it so wrong to just take a little hit of heroin from time to time?

    Is it so wrong to make an absurd, pseudo-scientific claim that's literally destroying the internet?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Don't know what kind of work you do, but I work with people, my partner works with kids. Short form content is absolutely ravaging minds. But you can believe whatever you want.

    Fact is, we see kids that are and aren't raised with access to short form content on social media, and the ones without do a whole lot better.

    Speech impediments are getting worse for a reason (the parents have a role in this too, if your around a kid, keep your damn phone in your pocket and talk to the poor thing).

    But again, you do you. You can claim its pseudo-science all you want when your kids end up needing a speech therapist and need medication just to finish an old movie 🤙

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I would argue, based on my perception of people who use and abuse those platforms, as well as data to suggest and confirm the above descriptors, that yes it is so wrong lol

    I mean, you're free to eat mcdonalds all you want, but let's not pretend it's a healthy choice in any way you measure it

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    Short form is cool because it's like constrained writing.

    Tiktok was pretty great while it was just silly videos.\ But it's not short form anymore so it's full of political essays and propaganda.

    I kinda hope that loops is more like vine than tiktok or vertical YouTube. But it'll probably be up to the instance to govern video length.

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  • [+] 19 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    No. No more Vines or Shorts or TikTok and shit. It's a fucking problem. Stop it.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I hate TikTok too, but it's not going away without comprehensive legislation regulating social media. Until then, a fediverse alternative that's not ruled by corporate algorithms would at least be a form of harm reduction. Think of it like a Safe Injection Site program; it's not great that they're still using, but at least they're getting clean needles.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    and UpScrolled already having questionable ethics, this may be the path forward.

    I am definitely Out of the loop on this.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    My problem with loops is I can only scroll four videos before it stops scrolling. No matter what. I've tested it a few times on different devices because I wanted to try moving friends off Tik Tok.

    I can't figure out why it just stops.

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    [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's... maybe not the greatest screenshot to use if you want to support them. The nearly invisible, black-on-dark-blue heading kinda makes it look vibe coded

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    Microsoft will take its name.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    UpScrolled is also for-profit right?

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

    What is the point of recreating media format designed exclusively to grab attention as much as possible and monetize it?

    Edit: I'm not saying that loops is planning to monetize it. I'm trying to say that the short video format was designed as being additive, so that the addiction can be monetized.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    I'd say it's to help replace unhealthy addictions with a platform that's smaller and less easy to fall into infinite scroll rabbit holes. Like nic-patches to stop smoking.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    and monetize it

    Have you used TikTok? If you had in the beginning, it was full of people doing history videos, diy, etc. I suspect it will be something like that. I don't use it anymore, but it was great in the beginning,.I suspect that if you're on Loops, especially at first, monetizing it isn't your first thing. The meme communities are probably going to go nuts.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    It still is that way, it just depends on what kind of content you engage with. People on reddit/lemmy LOVE to hate on short form video content but it isn't inherently destructive or evil IMO., it just depends on how you interact with it.

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  • [+] 2 points 8 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    People also want to use drugs that cause addiction. Is that a good reason to design and create more of them?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Someone with a vested interest in s healthy, functional society of educated adults.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    If you were an educated adult, you’d know that banning drugs tends to cause more harm. You’d also know that some drugs have positive effects on learning, cognition, attention, memory, mood, emotional regulation, and empathy, when used appropriately and responsibly. All of which contributes to a society of healthy and educated adults.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    I was talking about specifically about drugs that cause addiction, not all kinds of drugs in general. Also, I said nothing about banning drugs or anything else. I just don't understand why to produce more of that shit when we as society can't deal with what's already out there.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    You could also implement features that reduce the addictivity as the EU might be demanding of Tik Tok in the future. When it's a federated open source platform with no profit motive that's going to be something much more easy to get in.

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