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[+] 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    I hate Tesla as much as the next person but if the cyber truck retails at 10x the price (adjusting for inflation) then the cyber truck out earned the Ford Edsel 5:1. I don't know the real numbers but I'm sure it's not as bad as this makes it seem.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    you know it costs more to make, too. where are you getting this 10x and 5:1 bullshit, anyway? you admit you don't have the real numbers but also insist it's not as bad as this meme makes it seem, but based on what my dude?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Based on the fact that I know they cost more. They are marketed as luxury trucks my dude. It's not some wild and wacky theory my guy. I just said 10x to make the math as simple as possible when I typed.

    Edsels sold for the equivalent of 26,000$, cyber trucks start at 79,000$ that's 1.5:1 in favor of cyber trucks.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    and why does a 'luxury' price make it not as bad of a flop when selling half as many units as a famous flop from when the us pop was half the size? you know things cost money to make, right? cybertrucks aren't making tesla 79k profit a sale. what even is the point in trying to make it seem not as bad unless you're trying to simp for tesla?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I make a luxury watch for 500$, you make your watch for 20$. We both sell our watches for double the price. I need to sell less watches to make a larger profit than you.

    It seems like you're trying to lie about Tesla to hate them.

    I still hate Tesla and Elon despite the fact that the flop of the cyber truck isn't actually worse than the worst flop of all time. That actually makes me more of a Tesla hater than you. Sorry, I don't make the rules :/ better luck next time

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    That's a sound idea, but it really needs numbers, otherwise it looks rather pointless.

    I'm not sure if Ford made profit from selling those cars (when unsold ones are accounted for), I'm not sure if Elon did, too.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    They are marketed as luxury trucks my dude.

    They weren't, though. First it was originally supposed to be $40k, and then when they couldn't do that they put a lot of "projected fuel savings" BS into their pricing page to make it look much cheaper than it actually is. If they were genuinely trying to market it as "luxury" they wouldn't be chasing so many Government sales.

    It ended up with this "luxury" image entirely inadvertently, because it's not fit for purpose and only a rich idiot would ever buy one.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    where are you getting this 10x and 5:1 bullshit, anyway?

    It makes me irrationally angry that people, who are on the Internet with all the data at their disposal post bullshit like that 10x. People mock AI for hallucinating but that's exactly what people do. They invent numbers that have no basis in data or even common sense.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Ford Etsel's base trim was ~$2500 in 1958, which is ~$28k today. Cybertruck base trim is $80k. So it's closer to 3x and not 10x. Consider also that a lot of cybertruck sales were made to other muskrat companies in order to inflate the numbers, which ford didn't do back then, and the US population nearly doubled since then. I'd say cybertruck is a worse flop all things considered.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    But the Cyber doesn't retail at 10x adjusted for inflation. Adjusted for inflation the Edsel would be $40k today and that's not including that cars have outpaced inflation over the past several decades.

    The Cybertruck is priced like other Trucks just like the Edsel was priced like other cars.

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    • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Edsel is a collectors item these days. I had a colleage who spent half his retirement saving on one.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I doubt there will be any cybertrucks still on the road in 30 years, let alone 70. These things are choke full of modern squishy computers with shitty software which will fail quite soon. There would probably be collectors, but it would be a museum exhibit rather than a car.

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    • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Hey, it outsold the Fire Phone

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