So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid's school.
This makes me so fucking angry.
So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid's school.
This makes me so fucking angry.
So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid's school.
Screw any school or PTA that distributes information by Facebook. That should be outlawed.
I deleted Facebook maybe two years ago. One of the last things I saw was a very obviously AI generated image of six or seven soldiers that had lost the same leg and all had it replaced with a prosthetic at exactly the same point, with some caption about “let’s get some likes for our wounded warriors!” Followed by dozens of comments in support, I assume all were bots.
The Facebook feed is an advanced algorithm that knows a shit ton about what to feed you to keep you engaged. It's not just the cookies from sites you visit. They track what thumbnails get you to stop scrolling. They track the way a human eye moves and how far your thumb glides across the screen.
Point is, if it's all scantily clad thirst traps, thats what gets your attention. If you see one, and you stop to take a screenshot for an article you're writing about how it's all thirst traps, then every third item will be another thirst trap.
Facebook doesn't care if you want to see that content. Their goal is to keep your eyes on Facebook. If it makes you mad enough to comment, that's engagement.
I didn't read the whole article, so maybe the author addresses this, but what you see on Facebook is a funhouse reflection of your own interests.
When I was still using Instagram reels, I was always amazed how quickly the algorithm figured me out. If I hesitated for even a second on a reel, it would amend my next ones immediately. I assume the real trick is comparing it to the average time spent on a reel, everyone spends longer on a wall of text reel, but when I stop on a Linux reel for an extra second, I'm immediately in the 1% for engagement.
I read something years ago about how your phone keyboard tracks your recommended words, it knows if you're more likely to type apple or Apple, or if you type soup more than average, and any app that gets that data and compares it to the baseline has an instant, in depth profile on you.
This is exactly why using something like FUTO Keyboard is essential, nowadays.
I'll have to try that. Can you comment at all on the quality of the autocorrect and ability to learn your vocabulary? I don't want to connect my keyboard to a server farm but I certainly do want it to learn to help me type more efficiently on this tiny keyboard.
This is why I love the idea of Cromite and other “antifingerprinting” efforts, not simply blocking but spoofing and plausibly randomizing as many metrics as they can.
I wish there was some way to distribute that to the masses. Like maybe a crazy hardware zero day, and it’s only used to stealth load anti fingerprinting on as many devices as it can.
Exactly, if I look at my facebook feed, besides posts from people and groups I actually follow, the "suggested" posts are all stuff that matches my interests. gaming, music, movies.
They hadn’t used Facebook in years, so this is the default algorithm state — rage bait and bate-bait.
If that's your take and thats their goal: he doesn't seem very engaged with the content does he?
So clearly in that case it's a failure.
On the contrary, I'd say it's a smashing success. First, the author was deeply engaged with Facebook to write the article. Second, everyone who saw this article and discussed the findings was engaged with Facebook even if they didn't have the app open. You and I are engaged with Facebook right now. And third, many many more people logged into their Facebook to test the findings either out of curiosity, to disprove the theory, or because they are horny goblins thirsting for smut.
What I barely understand is why businesses keep fueling this ad inferno. If it’s mostly bots farming engagement, isn’t that going to limit the effectiveness of advertising? Won’t that eventually show up in their returns on the advertising’? Do they really want their business associated with scantily clad 14 year old feeds, or are they all totally blind to that.
I get part of it… social media is the internet now, for most people. So if you want reach, where else are ya gonna go? Cable? Newspapers? Local news? They killed everything else. Google’s even killing YouTube sponsors now, auto skipping sponsor segments in the app.
Most socia media traffic is just bots commenting on Ai slop. And those "real" posts have their humans thinking thousands of people actually give a shit about their selfies. Completely cooked society.
I just did the same thing - logged on to my facebook account after many years, and I'm not having the same experience at all. Old friends, neighbors, and relatives posting disappointing amounts of AI slop, some local news it suggests I follow (something about a hairdresser getting fined for refusing service), one particular former neighbor posting an endless barrage of AI-generated religious slop... and that's about it. It wasn't interesting a decade ago, and it only got less interesting since.
I am so upset that FB killed Craigslist, that is basically the only reason I use it regularly anymore. My feed has basically been taken over by right wing influencer bots otherwise.
I tried logging in to use the Marketplace to sell some shit. For whatever reason I couldn't access it. My account is verified, location is set, and some marketplace settings pages said my account is in good standing. Sent a request to support weeks ago and heard nothing.
So I just throw shit away now. Like I WANT to use your platform, but you're not letting me. Bye.
Craigslist still exists though. We could just... bring it back by using it again. As a bonus, it's not an app so it doesn't track you.
Summary: a opinion piece (with a clickbait title) about how Zuckbook is only a AI wasteland anymore.
What mine shows me is mostly racism and xenophobia. I mean, they know I'm white. Figured they might as well just shoot their shot.
Meanwhile it's utterly terrible at the one thing it's supposed to do. I'm got a few old friends and family members on there. Not super close or anything, but the kind of people you'd be vaguely interested in seeing if they had cancer or had babies or anything. Didn't show me those events at all.
Like, what is even the point of it other than a US far-right psy-op?
YouTube ass title.
Anytime any article or video says that, what ever the subject is get by just fine.
It's like that journalist law, the one where the answer is always "no" if the headline has a question in it.
Hm.
I just logged into my fb account and got zero shit like that. Just posts from a distant cousin, a few local people I follow and my local news.
I make it a point to hide/block all the extraneous shit that the feed offers - and have sone so for years - so maybe that's the difference?
Weird.
Also, this is not that far from Instagram. And even with real women Insta always felt slimy to me.
And… weird. I don’t get the appeal.
What's weird is that facebook only fills my feed with slop when I open in on my phone.
On my desktop browser, my feed only contains things I have subscribed to.
I logged out from my phone. It's just unusable.
I haven't really looked at Facebook in a long time but also haven't deleted my account because I do use Facebook marketplace sometimes.
I just logged in and looked. I actually saw no AI generated content except the few examples that were posted by people I know. I'm sure other's experiences are different, but the algorithm isn't feeding me slop for some reason.
Guy opens dumpster, is amazed by the amount of trash in there, writes an article about it.
Wow, really low hanging fruits here.
Idk I thought it was an interesting article. I haven't logged in since like 08, so I had no idea what it is like now.
And some rando fucking lemmy/reddit user complains about it.
It's the cycle of life.
It's the silly meta icon in WhatsApp that really gets on my nerves. Really needs to go away
Who needs Fakebook when there is moltbook
Which has more bots?
JFC this is what we're destroying the environment for?
I sat in a brief on this, and while it definitely was hyped up a bit and strategically poked by humans to get some responses, the overall takeaway is that I'm fucking terrified of what's to come with AI... and I work in AI research...
Assume you have to vote for the next US president: There are just a few candidates left:
What would you choose..I'd be happy if AI would be the only thing to worry about...
Assuming Trump was legally able to run, and if it's only those 5 choices, I would probably go with the company that's the least evil. I don't know which one that is for now. Definitely not Grok or Trump.
I never imagined how stupid the average AI user would be.
Like, just the amount of trust, sycophancy, and blind faith they put in these things is terrifying. OpenClaw is the worst though. Imagine just throwing money into the money furnace for … this??
How is the average AI user stupid? I think that's just... your average human in general. Some extremely smart people that make amazing use of it, most that are reasonable and use it for some things but know their limits, and some that have entire relationships with an AI or kill themselves due to it.
I haven’t been on facebook in like 10 years, but sounds like it’s exactly as I picture it.
There are addons for Firefox and other browsers too to clean out all the unwanted junk on Facebook. When I go on Facebook now it shows almost exclusively stuff that people I know have posted and groups that I follow. SocialFocus is one of them. Try it, it makes a huge difference.
there was chrome (and firefox probably?) extension that went through your all fb liked pages and unsubscribed from them so that when it's done timeline is gone entirely. fb went after its dev, removed that extension and banned him forever because it kept people off fb https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-bans-unfollow-everything-developer-delete-news-feed-2021-10 doing this all manually still worked back then, not sure about today
Facebook's letter took him by surprise, he said, adding that Unfollow Everything had only 2,500 weekly active users and 10,000 downloads.
"It was definitely growing, but it wasn't huge," he said.
"Apart from that I just very much saw it as something that improves the Facebook experience for Facebook users," he added, saying he got "amazing feedback" from people saying they "were using Facebook in a way that was much healthier for them."
slightly healthier relationship with attention devouring parasite in your pocket? not on zucc's watch, ALL contents of your skull are to be sourced from and licensed to meta platforms inc exclusively
Of course facebook is, and has been, done for a long time. I think this says more about your interests than anything else. Mine doesn't have a bunch of AI women, it's a bunch of random shit and ads last time I checked.
I mainly use it for neighborhood HOA groups and similar clubs, pickup soccer, etc.
Currently banned for “unusual activity”, after arguing with a few right wingers.
I only still have it to maintain contact with a small handful of people.
Given why it was started, is anyone surprised by any of this?
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