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[–] 165 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Putting aside all the late stage capitalism going on here, I still can't get over the fact that Alphabet (Google) spent billions of dollars developing self driving car technology only to arrive at, "Oh shit. Someone left the car door open. What do we do now?"

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  • [–] 38 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    This shows you just how strong our culture is an influence here. You can leave a door open and cause enough trouble that they need to hire someone else to go manually shut it. I’m willing to bet there are a lot of seemingly innocuous ways to cause friction with these companies. The more people know and exploit them, the better.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Supposedly a salt circle drawn like "no entry" road markings can trap them.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago

    Even if this thing was left on a single city block for 8 hours with its door open, the data it collects about nearby cars, Bluetooth devices, phones, WiFi SSIDs, recorded video/audio, etc. makes it worth it for alphabet, I imagine.

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  • [–] 63 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    They have self-driving cars, but self-closing doors is still at least 10-15 years away.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    I imagine there would be a gigantic list of safety concerns for self-closing doors.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    They already exist though? There are a bunch of EVs with servos in their doors. You can still overpower it just like you can an auto closing trunk

    edit: and they can also have proximity sensors, i know cadillac does that and their implementation is hyper vigilant, will stop the front door even if you're next to the pillar

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Eh, we already have self closing trunks. As long as they are programmed correctly (not by Tesla) they sense resistance and stop.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think programming is a problem, auto closing trunks and doors aren't strong enough. You can test that on any self closing trunk door, it will sound and feel awful but they're not strong at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    They absolutely are strong enough to break fingers. The Tesla dumpster is famous for cutting into fingers with the self closing trunk

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Tesla isn't a good example of how anything is done in the industry, but rather of how not to do it.

    I don't doubt Tesla's doors are designed to mutilate their customers, much like they're designed to trap them inside in the event of a fire, probably because Musk's ketamine addled brain though it'd be funny, but that's not how any other company would do it, even if only because because lawsuits cost money and weaker locks are cheaper.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago*

    I've seen cars with self-closing doors though. Also I'm not sure where the safety consideration would come in since we have self closing building doors right now and no one seems to get cut in half by those.

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  • [–] 102 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Does it charge extra to the last person that used the Waymo to cover the cost? Because if not, might as well just leave the door open every time, now you're a job creator.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago

    The cost of doing business is to pay a poor to close a door and keep the wheels of progress spinning.

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  • [–] 131 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Clearly that's why it's called DoorDash. /s

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  • [–] 55 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Hmmm…so it costs Waymo $11.25 if you “forget” to shut the door.

    Maybe people will become very forgetful.

    Or, upon reflection, just don’t use Waymo, and don’t play into it at all.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If you leave it all the way open, the car just needs to drive a couple feet with decent acceleration to close it.

    If you ALMOST close it, but not all the way, that would require some sort of intervention.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, you just speed up then slam on the brakes to open it, then you can close it as you said.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The door can latch but not be completely closed.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Give people a dollar discount off their ride if they close the door on the way out.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why are people leaving the doors open in the first place that's just wild. The super excited to get to work or something I don't get it.

    Wouldn't the simplest solution be to just ban people who leave the doors open, it's not that hard to close them.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Maybe some people simply expect an autonomous vehicle to be able to autonomously close its doors in the safest possible way without assistance. Maybe they actually think they're doing it right by not forcing the doors?

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Human driven taxis have mechanically closing passenger doors for decades. It's a big bug software and a management a failure . This can't be street legal. Autonomous cabs are billionaires snake oil

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    New rule, if you order one - fail to close the doors properly.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Its funny because in the US, there are regulations that make it such that, even if they have the capability to close the doors remotely and anti pinch sensors etc, they are not allowed to unless it is done by someone from a device nearby while they hold down the close button.

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  • [–] 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    so from now on leave all waymo's doors open and if you see one open no you don't

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Don't forget to fart as deep into the chair cushions as possible as well

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    No this is more like that old legend about the French colonial forces trying to solve the local rat problem in a Vietnamese city by paying the local populations 1 franc per rat that they kill and turn in. It made the locals breed rats to kill and turn them in for the bounty.

    We need to recognize that we are now "the local population" in that scenario. We need to milk the billionaire class dry at every turn and throw as many profit losses into their game as they yield any surface area to attack. It must be attacked.

    Flip their '1 dollar game for them' into '2 dollar game for you' every chance you can.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    see? ai does create new jobs. checkmate ai doomers /s

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So what's the point if a future car can't close itself?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    The US has serious FUD w regards to self driving vehicles and legal issues are in the way. Obviously the car could be built to do this safely but there are laws that prohibit this. Remember this is the same country that has reintroduced measles to the masses out of uneducated fear of vaccines.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    is there no saving this timeline?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Can't the car just back up half a meter then quickly go forward half a meter?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Just accelerate at full power and the doors will close themselves, duh.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Elon's robots can close the doors.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Humans are dumb. I mean humans can do awesome super intelligent things, but the average human is a dumb piece of shit.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Humans know how to close a car door.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    This, along with the story of the driverless car running over a beloved neighborhood cat, highlight the fundamental problem here: they’re training these systems to be autonomous cars - and they’re impressively close - but they’re still miles away from creating a simulation of an autonomous human. Not everything about operating a car is driving it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    but they don't give a fuck and just walk away.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Or they're in a hurry and didn't realize the door was ajar when they left the vehicle.

    Pretty normal for this to happen at the airport, especially when you're carrying a bunch of bags, juggling kids, etc. Normally, its not a big deal, because the cabbie will pop out and close the door if they get the alert. But here, there's no remote way to close the door and no way to signal the rider that it didn't close completely.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    I didn't imply the human didn't know how to close a car door. I am saying the human is dumb for specifically choosing to be a piece of shit for NOT closing the car door.

    I'm speaking strictly on the nefarious side of things because I can't understand simply "forgetting" to close a car door... but that again circles back to the dumb part of the human brain.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, the humans are the problem here and not the unregulated, self-autonomous robo taxi.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    human is dumb for specifically choosing to be a piece of shit for NOT closing the car door.

    Depending on what I'm doing, I periodically have to double back and re-close a door if I didn't close it hard enough. Modern cars have built in alarms specifically to alert drivers when a door latch isn't secured. You don't have to be a piece of shit to fail to notice that a door is ajar.

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