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[–] 99 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Simple 1:1 audio stream is easy.

Groups, screen sharing, noise canceling, NAT traversal, mobile apps, and all those extra features people have come to expect are hard.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago*

    As for "why is it hard to self-host", it is only NAT traversal.

    TURN, STUN, ICE, etc. are not fun to debug. Not sure if anyone still bothers fiddling with TOS/DSCP on their router. You can build a voice server that just exposes a TCP port, but... latency. And corporate firewalls love to randomly block some UDP port ranges but not others.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly!

    people act entitled as if all that you mention was trivial and that somehow FOSS devs "owe" people, but we only see those big corpos make it happen because... well, they're big corpos, burning VC money on makint it happen and making it happen in a controlled jail.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have honestly not seen anyone acting like they are "owed" these things by FOSS developers. We just want them.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that's because we here know better (I'd hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can't move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Groups: just simple Chanels are fine, password lock them if you want.

    Screen sharing: one at a time should be fine. Self hoster can configure max bit rates.

    Mobile apps: building your app to be multiplatform is a lot easier than it was a decade ago.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago*

    It's easy. Mumble. Or the thing you used probably still works.

    But you see, people never actually seek a discord alternative. They want a discord alternative that includes all the features in one app that is also federated, AND end to end encrypted, and each one makes things vastly more technically challenging and resource intensive and then you want them together.

    A little secret: Matrix is much, much easier to host if you disable encryption and federation. Federation to many servers is the main performance killer, and "failed to decrypt message" will all disappear if you disable encryption.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This has big XKCD Energy. It almost feels like an exact recreation of the comic but with tech:

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    [–] 59 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Try mumble if you just need voice. Just fire up a docker container and open a tcp and a udp port. The settings are under-documented so things like auth are tough to set up.

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    [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If you go with anything using livekit (stoat/revolt , lasuite meet), voice is not very hard per se (just a bunch of udp ports required).

    It's video that will get your CPU to its knees

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I ran mumble for years, insanely easy setup.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I found out the other day that I had a mumble server still running that I had been tinkering with a year or so ago and just forgot about. Hadn't noticed it was still running this whole time because it's so low in resource usage

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It’s not! Use SonoBus; it’s dead simple, and superior to Discord. It’s far lower latency, with customizable filters, peer-to-peer; and totally free.

    Now if you want emojis and video and rambling channels and stuff, you will have to go elsewhere.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Don’t forget about teamspeak!

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I have a Jitsi server hosted through a docker container that was pretty easy, and ties into Rocket Chat. Jitsi does voice and video, Rocket Chat does chat.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I thought it was only voice though. Not screen share or chat.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    It's not, but the people who are asking are often not tech-savvy, and any amount of self-hosting will be hard for them

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Nothing is stopping it, it's just not particularly convenient because it's designed around the limitations of the phone system.

    SIP could handle it all if you wanted though.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    VDO Ninja is really nice. My friend self hosts it, and it didn’t seem that hard.

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  • [–] [B] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    IP Internet Protocol
    NAT Network Address Translation
    TCP Transmission Control Protocol, most often over IP
    UDP User Datagram Protocol, for real-time communications

    3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 5 acronyms.

    [Thread #88 for this comm, first seen 13th Feb 2026, 05:10] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Not a good discord replacement but setting up nextcloud talk (simple p2p voice chat) and then the high performance backend (better supports video/voice calls between 3+ people) was relatively easy. We use it among my family now to have group calls instead of relying on facebook messenger.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Since no one has mentioned it yet -

    If you haven't tried setting Synapse up with the ansible playbook you should. It's almost push-button and has 1:1 voice calls by default. Setting up group voice from there is a bit challenging, but the playbook has a section for it as well if you're willing to try.

    Edit: cookbook - > playbook

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