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[–] 99 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Simple 1:1 audio stream is easy.

Groups, screen sharing, noise canceling, NAT traversal, mobile apps, and all those extra features people have come to expect are hard.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago*

    As for "why is it hard to self-host", it is only NAT traversal.

    TURN, STUN, ICE, etc. are not fun to debug. Not sure if anyone still bothers fiddling with TOS/DSCP on their router. You can build a voice server that just exposes a TCP port, but... latency. And corporate firewalls love to randomly block some UDP port ranges but not others.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly!

    people act entitled as if all that you mention was trivial and that somehow FOSS devs "owe" people, but we only see those big corpos make it happen because... well, they're big corpos, burning VC money on makint it happen and making it happen in a controlled jail.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have honestly not seen anyone acting like they are "owed" these things by FOSS developers. We just want them.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that's because we here know better (I'd hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can't move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Groups: just simple Chanels are fine, password lock them if you want.

    Screen sharing: one at a time should be fine. Self hoster can configure max bit rates.

    Mobile apps: building your app to be multiplatform is a lot easier than it was a decade ago.

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