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[–] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How would that even work? You kick people out when you reach 10 million? You sterilize people, you kill the elderly? This is just an atrocity waiting to happen.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Well, I can imagine with the limited resources available to humanity, it is smart to start working on shrinking world population. However, there’s nothing in this proposal to consider such things; that’s just “no brown people” policy. I wonder what the reich wingers would propose if only braun people would grow over 10 million..

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Fuck's sake what do the swiss even have to complain about?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Logan’s Run then?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    And depending on how that goes, the US will introduce a populationcap of 100,000,000 to help push along the 75% of American ls the HF wants to kill.

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    [–] 45 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    The problem is too many billionaires, not too many immigrants.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    That's kind of a separate issue. You can have overpopulation of a given physical area with or without wealth inequality.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    There only is overpopulation when there aren't enough resources (read food, jobs, facilities, land to live in, etc) for everybody. The smaller the piece of the 99% the more they'll feel like there is too much population.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Land to live in is the key one here. Remember, we're talking about Switzerland, not North America.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    So imagine 10 people have 100sq units, the billionaire lives on 91 and the other live on 9, it starts to feel really crowded when another person comes in. Best case he is poor and they have to spread the 9sq units among the ten of them. Worst case is this new guy is even richer as the other billionaire. He buys half the billionaires land and half the poor people land. Now the new guy has 51sq units, the other billionaire 45.5sq unit, and only 4.5sq meters for the poor people. Obviously everytime a new guy moves in everybody will scream overpopulation, but is this really because the new guy takes up too much space or because the space was badly divided?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You are clearly missing my point, or you have no concept of how small Switzerland is and how little of it's land is suitable for habitation. You could take the richest 1% of people on the planet, stick them all in Switzerland with equal land to live in, and it would be overcrowded. It's a problem of physical space in that particular country, not wealth distribution.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I've spent some time in Switzerland. There is a TON of space that is suitable for habitation that either isn't used or is used for farming (necessarily). I remember traveling around thinking how empty it felt outside of cities. Even the cities didn't feel crowded compared to other cities I've been to.

    A) Your 1% hypothetical would be making the population 10x higher than now, so obviously they could not handle having the 1%. It's a dumb hypothetical.

    B) Assuming we go with your hypothetical, each person of that 80 million people in 16,000 sqmi would get 5600 sqft. My entire property, regardless of my house size, is not 5600 sqft. So I wouldn't feel bad about that much space. Yeah, much of the mountainous areas are not habitable, but that's why multilevel housing was developed. If we assume only 25% of their country is habitable, then that still gives each person of that 80 million person around 1400 sqft. That's bigger than my 3br house! If we go multilevel housing, then you can still have a ton of space for people.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Thanks for calculating that, land to live on is definitely not a defining factor in deciding whether Switzerland is overpopulated or not. Maybe back in a time where everybody had to feed themselves from working the land, but in 2026 you could easily fill Switzerland 10 times over and it still wouldn't be a densely populated country. Plenty of cities that are much smaller in size while having over 10 mio inhabitants.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    1% of the world population is more than 80 million. Them being rich or not isn't what matters, how the resources are divided is the problem. There is enough space also in Switzerland for many more people but not if all of them are poor and uneducated, nor if all of them are surgeons and lawyers, nor if they all want to start a free roam chicken farm. More equality leads to more perceived space, because low equality leads to people living in small houses in dense cities. But if you're not from Switzerland it might not really matter what argument i bring up.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Just looked it up Switzerland is smaller than I thought it was. For other Americans, it's roughly the size of Maryland or West Virginia.

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  • [–] 82 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    I fully support this measure. If the country's population hits 10 million, the people who supported it can be guillotined for a better Switzerland. Then we can all move on with our lives and never revisit this horrible idea.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That should be a provision - if an immigrant can best a citizen at a series of genuinely objective tests (German/French, intelligence, logic, etc.) then the citizen's whole family has to trade places with the immigrant's family.

    Watch how fast these people would drop this if they had to demonstrate they were "better" and not just sig heil about it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    No, it's only for idiots who think they're better than everyone else. The average person would shut the fuck up and note open themselves up to a challenge. This is for assholes that publicly state they're better than immigrants.

    You can be nominated by a vote in your village or canton if you make public statements about being superior to immigrants.

    And people that talk a good game are allowed to freely open themselves to a challenge. Because of the prize

    A global pool of challengers goes through rankings to get a top 32 bracket every year, who each pay CHF 5,000 to challenge a Swiss asshole. One of the 32 is selected randomly to compete against said asshole. Up to 32 a year.

    A rigorous and objective test happens on the Italian side of the border. You know, so no one gets too used to Swiss life. Language, history, skiing, eating cheese, etc.

    The winner gets CHF 1 million, citizenship, and all real estate of the challenged asshole. The loser gets nothing. If the asshole losses, they have 72 hours to get them, their car amd shit, their spouse, and any minor children out of the country where they will experience being an immigrant themselves.

    And you'll never hear another Swiss far right asshole mumble a peep ever again once the first fucking time their ubermench hero gets sent packing.

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So for every child born and for every migrant, one of these far right cunts will be expelled? Sounds like a plan.

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