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[–] 53 points 9 months ago

Cry harder maga.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago

    Have the day you voted for!

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    You rely on hispanic labor modern slavery.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Don't worry, once the camps are up and running there will be plenty of "free" labor to make up the shortfall.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I so very much want more journalists to ask Pedonald voters in such situations just what they thought was going to happen?

    Did they just think it was going to be like some Left Behind thing, but instead of xtians, it would be all the brown and black people spirited away, and leaving the economy unchanged?

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Sucks to be you!

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Its would be funny if it wasn't so rage inducing to hear these ignorant fools caterwaul about something they helped make happen. If it was just them I would still be laughing. Unfortunately all the innocent people who have been abducted and put in cages keep me steadily focused on rage.

    Edit: Inducing

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    well said. I have this feeling all the time. I wish they could have their own seperate thing that only effected them and normal folks could have things normal. I have mused sometimes that if there is a heaven and a hell they would have the same basic setup as earth except you would only be with people on your level.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not that they are humans with rights, they are things that they need to exploit

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I gave up on that idea after covid. If you couldn't be bothered to put a piece of fabric over your face to protect your neighbors, it's a lost cause.

    Most people don't care about anybody but themselves, and possibly their immediate family. That was a lonely realization.

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    [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    I keep saying this and I'm honestly surprised that some of the educated sociopaths in the Republican party haven't pushed back. But maybe they can't get anybody elected without feeding the hate.

    The point is: Even if you remove all morality and you do not care one bit about the lived experience of other human beings who also only get to live once, it is STILL stupid to be ejecting people from the country. Our economy is built on infinite growth, and you cannot grow your portfolio of companies and/or stocks without a supply of laborers to underpay.

    Good on us for driving away both ends of the spectrum -- the cheap laborers AND the Ph.D academics!

    edit: I forgot to mention that this is happening in the context of the population of the entire developed world beginning to level off and even decline. I feel like one of the big social ills of the next generation could be developing nations still getting the shaft on the global stage as all the rich countries court their best workers.

    If you look at the list & map here, you can see that the only continent still adding to the world population is Africa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You'd think that Trump states would remember the very recent stupidity they went through when they passed anti-immigrant laws and lost billions of dollars when they realized that immigrants made the state go round and what Democrats say is true that white people don't want to do those jobs.

    And then I remember they're Republican.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    I bet native people would want to do those jobs, but the real stickler is they'll want a livable wage to go along with it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I wish I could find the article where they talked to a few farmers in Georgia where they did increase the wage but none of the Real American's^TM came back because the work was too hard for their soft, soft Real American^TM hands.

    But here's some other stories that I found:

    https://www.walb.com/story/15626967/hb-87-costing-georgia-big-bucks/

    and the failed use of probationers:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/ga-immigrant-crackdown-backfires-057551

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    hispanic slave

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Hilarious and this is just the beginning 🍿🥤

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (45 children)

    I hope reds and their kids starve to the actual fucking grave.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    How many liberals do we see on here with conservative parents. The apple does fall far from the tree many times.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I’m a socialist that grew up in the south watching my dad go from Rush Limbaugh to Fox News to Facebook MAGAdom. We went from debating policy in my teens, to debating reality in my 20s and 30s, and finally to me refusing to participate because I could see he was getting old.

    That didn’t stop him from dying in an underfunded and rundown rural hospital with Fox News blaring on the TV in his room.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (37 children)

    Republicans aren’t humans. They are sick disgusting animals.

    They can choose another path.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (23 children)

    Dehumanization is the tool of the enemy.

    Republicans are human beings, they're just ignorant, stupid, or evil. Sick and disgusting animals to be sure, but human nonetheless.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (22 children)

    Don’t care anymore. Did you cast a vote in the 2024 presidential election?

    If you didn’t, you’re on that list.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (21 children)

    I get it, you're burnt out. It's exhausting fighting fascists and calling out the growth of extreme right wing views for years while no one listens. I've been there.

    Remove yourself from whatever direct action groups or community organizations you're a part of. You'll be no help in changing anyone's mind or gaining the support you need to get the change you actually want if you continue with your current attitude. Alienating potential allies is not the way to grow a movement.

    Look at yourself. You're saying that 231 million people aren't people. Do you understand how that looks from a sane perspective? It looks a lot like the folks you're claiming to not support.

    I realize none of this is likely to change your mind, I just keep hearing shit like this and this time it set me off. Sorry about that, have a better day.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    Sane? You assume your view is sane. To me, you’re not sane. So, we can toss around what is moral an immoral all day long, but you still only have YOUR OWN OPINION.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    The view that evil people are still people? Yes that view is sane. Believing they are something other than human is at best delusional (not sane). At worst it's an excuse for genocide (also not sane).

    Hate who you want to hate, I can't stop you, but don't be surprised if you keep getting called out for it.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    But you aren’t sane. And called out is an opinion. I also don’t care about it. Saying I’m wrong doesn’t make me wrong.

    These people should be wiped out. Just my OPINION. Which in very much entitled to, and very much not “wrong”

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Are you a Real Housewife?

    You are entitled to your genocidal views, but don't think you're better than the people you want to murder.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    I don’t want innocent people dead. They do. I’m better.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    You've stated in this very thread that anyone who either voted Republican or didn't vote are inhuman and should be wiped out. Are you claiming that none of those more than 231 million people are innocent?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Not only this, he clearly stated that somehow the children are guilty enough to deserve the same consequence. Children (the majority at least) cannot be held accountable for anything. Being brainwashed by communities they were born into isn't their fault.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    They made their choice in 2024. I don’t care anymore 🤷‍♂️

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    You want to kill 231 million people. Hitler killed 12 million. You want to be 19 times worse than Hitler. And you still claim to be better than our opponents? Delusional and potentially psychopathic.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    🤷‍♂️ hey unlike you, I want to do something besides let it happen.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Bitch, I'm in Minnesota on the streets protesting and helping my community while ICE attacks us. Where are you? Behind a keyboard dreaming of being the largest mass murderer in history.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    You’re not doing anything to stop Trump and his cronies from taking over and destroying this country. You’re just standing on a street corner not killing ICE.

    Nothing you’re doing now has an impact. Look around. You’ve changed nothing. We are in a FREE FALL. What ICE did in Minnesota is just them playing with their food.

    When it happens—and it will happen this year—it’s gonna happen fast. This country is fucking toast. It’s over.

    What am I doing? I’m immigrating to another country. America has done nothing but oppress me my whole life. Fuck you people. Enjoy Post America.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    So you flee rather than fight. You talk about how I'm doing nothing and having no impact and you're running away? I'm so shocked to find out you're a hypocrite and a coward🙄.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You’re not fighting. You’re not better than me. You’re doing nothing, and you and your family are going to die.

    I’m saving mine. I’m better than you.

    Goodbye and good luck.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Im sorry that most people have been downvoting you. This place has a lot of people who lack nuance it seems.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Eh, seems likely that the person I was arguing with used some sock puppets to downvote me because they think this is Reddit, where that sort of thing matters.

    A lot of people I've talked to on Lemmy are actually capable of reasonable debate, this just wasn't one of them.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Read the fucking room you clown.

    This is a place filled with leftists and liberals, and not moderate ones either, we are pretty extreme.

    And you still got ratio’d by me ffs.

    Riddle me this. You get your wish and you wipe out a couple of hundred million Americans. What happens when the next extreme leftist (which I am too) decides actually WhereIsTamara isn’t left enough so we should wipe out their bloodline you’d be down for that yeah?

    Or the right wanting to wipe you outdo you support that too as if you don’t then you lack integrity and fuck you for that.

    I genuinely try not to be abusive but you sound like a dick head that just needs a slap. So if you ever come to the Uk, hmu as I’d love to give you a slap for being such a dummy.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago

    What room? What ratio? Go back to twitter, child. You’re telling me popular opinion is the right opinion?

    The room is a bunch of CENTERs. You clowns think you’re “left,” you think you’re “extreme,” but you’re not willing to do fucking anything.

    Come to the UK? Oh Jesus Christ you’re Not even is the US and you’re obsessing over US politics? Oh that’s hilarious. You people couldn’t even stay in the EU, I’m not taking YOUR advice, lmfao.

    I would never step foot onto UK soil because it’s EVEN MORE AUTHORITARIAN than the US. Yall just have a few more centuries of mind control than we do.

    You’re the fucking problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Hi. Former Republican here. It may have been ten years ago, but I remember when I had these attitudes.

    What changed my mind was finding out that the hateful rhetoric I had been spouting directly applied to me the day I found out I was gay.

    To give you a walk through the very rapid shift in my psyche that happened, I went from being the quintessential trad-Christian material that Instagram chuds drool over to... well, me.

    I want you to understand one thing, if nothing else; the person I am, the one talking to you right now, was always there. Finding who I was after having it--in some ways literally--beat out of me was a special kind of hell. In fact, from deconversion to decolonization to transitioning, it nearly drove me to kill myself. Because I finally found out how much the world actually hurt when I finally saw the scope of the system I had helped reinforce with the ignorance I had been indoctrinated into. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I would, however, wish it on my best friend.

    The other person here was right. Dehumanizing them only drives hatred deeper down into ourselves.

    Eventually, these assholes will fade away. Some of them might do some soul-searching and make some personal discoveries, like I did. A majority will probably just wrap up their bigotry and hide it on a shelf, and only take it down and pass it around when they're around other bigoted ghouls. But never forget, the exact same weaknesses in their brain that led to their awful actions exists in your brain too. We like to think we're immune to that shit. The fear. The anger. The hatred. That because we hate the haters, we're better than them. That somehow it makes us morally superior, that we want to commit their own atrocities against them as a kind of poetic justice.

    All conflict ends, eventually. It ebbs and it flows, the tide goes in, the tide goes out. Tectonic plates press, and then release the tension after the earthquake. The charge builds up in the cloud until the lightning bolt comes down. The human heart is just as incapable of sustaining so much violence over such a long period of time.

    I'm not telling you that you're wrong to be furious. To be vengeful. To be spiteful. After all, these are the kinds of atrocities that fill history books. They're the kinds of atrocities that fuel divides that span centuries or more, and spawn more conflict after the water settles.

    Just remember. Eventually, you will have to put the sword down. Eventually, whether you think you can or can't, the violence and the fuel that drives it will disappear. The damage, however, will outlive you. And it will outlive me. And it keeps me up at night, knowing that while I never took part in it, I condoned it and promoted it, even though I'd been conditioned to embrace it since I was born. I was lucky to break out.

    Speaking from experience here. They are wrong. They have no idea they're wrong, because they're feeling the exact same--and I do mean the exact same--emotion you're feeling right now, using nearly the exact same moral justification. It's one of the most bitter glitches in our human psyche. By all means, punch Nazis. But once they decide not to be a Nazi anymore, and actually turn over a new leaf, and disown their past, maybe consider treating them kindly again once they rekindle their humanity.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So it took you having it happen to you for you to change?

    Trash.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I understand where you're coming from. And I understand why you're mad. It's been a bad week.

    Lashing out at a stranger showing a smidge of vulnerability in order to explain the thought processes of the people doing insanely stupid shit is kinda counterproductive, though. Maybe chill. I'm trying to help.

    What I went through to be a better person took years. Trust me, you're not the first person to give me this response. You won't be the last. And that's fine. It's your weird grudge against internet people you'll never meet.

    Maybe focus on the people who are actually part of the problem. They aren't here.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    And the children?

    One could argue you would raise monsters who lack basic empathy for kids, like you.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Don’t care. Like seriously. Cut it off at the source and burn the leaves. End it now.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Children don't always end up like their parents. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you keep holding onto that viewpoint, you're as much as a piece of shit as the Magats

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I was one of those kids. I'm lucky I survived, and even luckier that I had the chance to change my attitudes.

    Speaking from that experience, they deserve the same chance that I had.

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  • [+] -27 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    We didn't mean it like that..

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    [–] 81 points 9 months ago

    Have the day you voted for.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago

    Translation: "We need a permanent underclass." AmeriKKKa

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    because nothing says "deeply held belief" quite like a registered fucking trademark. fuck every one of you.

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    The reporting came after a self-professed three-time Trump voter, identified only as “John in New Mexico, Republican,” called in to C-SPAN last week to apologize for previously supporting the president, whom he called a “rotten, rotten man,” citing his immigration operations and racist post about the Obamas.

    Every little bit helps, and trump is gonna keep losing from every group he's not currently pandering too.

    Any move he makes, is going to piss off some of his voters, and once he loses them, they're going to absolutely "tune out" of politics and be unreachable for a couple election cycles.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    That's great and all...but we told them many times before the elections in 2016, 2020, and 2024, that he was a rotten and racist man.

    Also, now, we know, he fucks children. Possibly eats them, and maybe even runs a puppy mill operation but with human babies.

    That, apparently, doesn't bother the caller. It's always "what's left unsaid" with these people.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    To the huge part of the population that vehemently reject any ideas that feel external, the hardest part of convincing someone is making it seem like it's their idea. All of those facts were never going to change their mind when they were reported on. It had to be their own realization that, ok, I don't like racist pedophile con men liars.

    Fox News figured out how - it got root access to their brains and rewrote the whole OS - but for regular people to try to convince them of one obvious fact, we practically need to act out the entire movie Inception.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    That second paragraph is really it.

    The world changed way too damn fast over the past hundred or so years, and really ramped up within my lifetime (40).

    I describe to my kids how we used to contact people, or watch TV when I was a kid, and they can't believe it. I describe how my parents did it and it's even more unbelievable. And my grandparents...well, they didn't have phones, TVs, or cars when they were their age.

    Meanwhile...psychology...particularly the understanding of addiction and manipulation, and how it relates to the modern media landscape, has only really been gaining steam the past, what, 10 years?

    And how much of that knowledge is reflected in current law?

    Cable news networks have a 30+ year head-start on science, and a financial incentive to abuse what they've learned for self-gain. And then lobby to keep the doctors from taking it all away.

    Soda (pop) taxes are probably a good case study here. Everybody knows sugar/hfcs isn't good for you. Everybody knows that there's a lot of that in soda. Everybody knows that soda isn't a necessary part of a healthy diet. Everybody knows that artificial sweeteners aren't great for you.

    Yet when people start talking about taxing soda to help curb the obesity epidemic, it's an uproar, largely driven by fox news et al.

    Don't get me wrong, in theory I do somewhat disagree with the concepts of sin tax, and think that the bulk of taxes revenue should be taken from the billionaire leeches that are really running this country. But, if that sin has a measurable impact on public health? Then yeah, I'm okay with sin taxes.

    I gladly pay 20% tax on recreational cannabis, because a.) it's still cheaper than street, b.) it's tested and regulated c.) the revenue goes towards social equality programs, public health, public transit, and schools, and d.) it is, for all intents and purposes, a luxury good. Medical, I don't think, is taxed in this state.

    And I still think the Ron Paul Red-Wave of Reddit circa 2008 was a trial run by the GOP in using social media to promote an unpopular candidate to a blue and purple audience. By the time 2016 came around they applied it, bigly, and gave Trump the upper hand by letting the primary stage be so full, splitting the vote among all the establishment candidates and paving the way for Trump to easily outlast the rest.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    But, if that sin has a measurable impact on public health? Then yeah, I’m okay with sin taxes.

    Why would it be a sin if it didn't cause objective harms? The whole point of taxing and regulating these things is that the harm they cause isn't just personal or moral, they materially impact communities, just sometimes in ways you don't typically think about. If someone is calling for a "Sin Tax" on truly victimless crimes, that's not a sin tax, that's just plain old social censorship.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody has to be harmed for something to be a sin.

    And I would say calling sugary soda a "sin" is a bit of a stretch, since a sin is just any action, thought, or omission that violates moral or religious law.

    Tons of sins, especially in that second column, that doesn't hurt anybody.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I think you're getting hung up on the figurative language. A "sin tax" isn't about a religious sin, it's about taxing something that's obviously bad, but not harmful enough to justify criminalizing it and often popular enough that people would be outraged if you just banned it. Like cigarette taxes, weed taxes, alcohol taxes and the like. Things that not only harm you, but the community that then has to deal with the consequences of your choices.

    The idea is those taxes then go to fund mitigation programs. Rehab, or gym membership tax credits or things like that.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They're deep in propaganda...

    When you see a camel buckle under one more piece of straw, that's motivation to keep throwing more straw. Not give up because it's working.

    I have no idea how anyone could hold the view that this means we shouldn't keep trying. Yet here you are...

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    Their plan is to replace all the low paid workers with their political opponents via forced labor

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Oh no! It’s the consequences of both my actions and my non-actions!

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    You mean"our fat pasty white asses depend on Mexican slave labor."

    "Blacks, can you help us?"

    Blacks: Hell no!

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    [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    LOL Honor first?...

    Where's the humanity? "Ooooh our profits!?!"

    Is that, after a fucking year and continuing violence and constitutional gutting, the one thing they pipe up about?!?

    Fuck these red states, their bigotry, lack of separation of church and state... - enjoy your dictator cheese and asnomia remission

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