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[–] 186 points 9 months ago* (25 children)

Men make money to survive this cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape.

Women make money to survive this cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (21 children)

    I'd hate to break this to you, but the cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellscape is in its infancy. It's barely learning to crawl yet.

    Enjoy the next thousand years or so... if you can...

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I hate to break it to you but cyberpunk is a critique of today's world. Tomorrow can always get much worse.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Today's world is a toe dipped in the lake of cyberpunk critique.

    Transhumanism is, for the most part, still a crackpot fringe theory. Most of us aren't brainchipped, and there are still recognizable human interactions on the web.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, I don't see anyone not even more evil than Epstein over there, ruling the world. And unless you rule the world, the worst of us eventually will. So being VERY transhuman, might actually be the only way to win.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    If you're referring to multilateralism, international law, and rules-based-order, I'd agree. We already had that and it (mostly) worker since the second half of the 20th Century. Although there was still a lot of room for improvement, but now we're throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    But if you mean some well-intentioned do-gooder should conquer everybody and enforce their own standard of decency, then I'd say that's a slippery slope and self-contradictory. Well-intentioned people don't conquer the world.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    For those wondering what typically defines the cyberpunk literary genre, its key elements include:

    High-tech, low-life scenarios: Advanced technology, such as cybernetics, artificial intelligence, and virtual reality, is prevalent, but it exists alongside widespread societal breakdown and poverty.

    Dystopian future:
    The settings are typically bleak and oppressive, often dominated by powerful corporations or decentralized, corrupt power structures.

    Impact of technology on humanity:
    Cyberpunk explores how technology shapes society, culture, and individual identity .

    Antiheroes and rebellion:
    Characters are often morally ambiguous rebels fighting against oppressive systems.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    i..... present you with.....a choice.....comrade.....

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Enjoy the next thousand years? Are you immortal? Do you think everyone else is immortal too?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I have no mouth and I must eat icecream

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I forgot what this conversation is about and I don't feel like backtracking. All I know now is that end-stage ligma is a mouth-less person who's craving ice cream.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I can't speak for everybody, but I remember when the first continents were formed from geothermal vaults at the bottom of the ocean.

    Or maybe that was just a mushroom trip. Either way, the dystopia has only just begun. Stop being pedantic.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks, corporate mascot beever

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The reappropriation of the Buc-ees beaver is similar to the reappropriation of Mickey Mouse by punks in the 70's.

    Nothing says 'Muricah more than Buc-ees (and maybe us flag bathing shorts). It is a mecca for meat, oversized sodas and snacks, petrol consumption, and nice toilets to shit all the garbage you've consumed.

    An .ml account in the Fediverse sporting the ultimate symbol of American consumerism is exactly what I'm going for.

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  • [–] 96 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure it's true for some women. But I wouldn't be surprised if most working women were either married or in a committed relationship. Plus, a lot of households have two incomes out of necessity. Both partners need to work full time just to make ends meet.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I make money to eat and buy books.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Plenty of men work overtime so they don’t have to go back to their wife or gf

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    One of my friends is going through a divorce and one of the reasons his wife gave us is that he would sit in his car in the driveway and look at his phone for a bit when he got home. There are other reasons but that one stuck out to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah. That's my personal indicator that there's something wrong with my work setup; avoiding doing the thing that leads to the unpleasant parts. I guarantee he started hiding in his car after the relationship issues began.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Think there's some nuance needed. Occasionally ppl need some some time to decompress. Im positive a lot of ppl sit in their car after work to avoid their spouse but others just want sometime to themselves. Ive done that being single and having roommates i actually like. Plus sometimes I was too lazy to get out of the car

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, I get it. When I get home I don't want to talk to ANYONE I don't care if I like them or not. Just need a fucking minute to myself to decompress and switch gears. I can't speak much to his situation but knowing her and seeing how she greeted him at the door with shit when I was over there on more than one occasion I could see why he'd want to take a second before walking into that.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That was all the salesmen at one place I worked. Mormons with tons of kids. They'd go anywhere in the world to get away from them.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, parenting is a pretty shitty gig. Expectations are high and support is low. People judge everything you do, especially those who have never done it themselves. Even with good kids its a thankless slog most of the time. God help you if you get a hard one.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    This is also why people should seriously think about if they are ready to have a kid or want to have a kid.

    Millions or tens/hundreds of millions of kids have parents that never really wanted them and just gave in to the biological clock and/or social pressures and the kids have a shitty childhood. It sucks to be unwanted, and kids can really feel it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nope. It's a trans-generational ploy since time immemorial. The worst ones are the bosses who ask you to stay so they don't have to go home, but it can happen to anyone.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but who are the bosses currently mainly from? Exactly, boomers. Also, younger generations rather tend to break up instead of enduring a bad relationship/marriage.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago

    you know, i've always been wondering about whether that is secretly a covert plan of the wife so the husband works longer hours, makes more money and makes the family richer. i'd seriously not put that past some people i've met in my life ...

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  • [–] 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I make money to be with cats.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago

    Us men are working to not end up on the streets and dying of exposure or at the baton of a bootlicker.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I make money to afford ddr5.

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  • [–] 65 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    I swear memes like these seem like a psyops to keep us at each others throats

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Na, a self-secure person can take a joke while acknowledging the truth in it.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I agree it's hard to know what's part of divide and conquer political psyops and whether that was the intention or not of the person that created the original content.

    I personally scrolled by this and read it as a debate about feminism in its most basic sense (equality for all) vs conservative traditionalism and patriarchy (heirarchy based control). Not as an attack on men, or to exclude anyone who doesn't fall into the heteronormative categories which exist as a consequence of the protected heirarchies demanded by conservative traditionalism and patriarchy.

    Like the propaganda behind conservative traditionalism has always relied on convincing people that all of modern society's problems are simply due to moving further away from the traditional values of the past. It's circular logic that offers easy and appealing solutions to those being targeted with propaganda by using a scapegoat and relying on supporters to either remain unaware of, or, to intentionally ignore the very obvious problems caused by the conservative heirarchies ("values") that the traditionalist movement seeks to preserve and strengthen.

    For example, addressing the declining standard of living with each successive generation, lack of affordable housing, affordable education, and job opportunities in the United States. Traditional conservativism often targets young men by offering them easy solutions to the issues by claiming they were caused by the feminist and civil rights movements that moved American society away from the traditional values (heirarchies) that were already in place.

    According to the modern right, the DEI practices that arose from those movements mean all the resources which were previously available for young men to build the American dream, are now unavailable because of DEI. Modern society has redistributed all available resources and handed them to women and minorities, while young (white) men have been forgotten and left behind. Essentially, the movements towards equality have upset the natural order of things, and until that order is restored, there will be no way to fix the problems of modern society. How do you fix the problem? Simple, remove equality.

    It's certainly true that opportunity, housing, affordability, and standard of living have all noticably declined in the U.S over the last 50 years, so the argument that the lack of available resources in the U.S. in 2026 can be traced to and blamed on the most salient social movements 50 years prior (1970's), is a deceptive but easy conclusion to lead people to out of context. It simply requires you have some prior knowledge of the history and culture of the decade, without acknowledging what was simultaneously happening in the background of the U.S. in response to those movements.

    Blaming social equality movements and toppling of established heirarchies, very intentionally ignores the fact that since the 1970's wealth has become increasingly concentrated in the hands of the 1%. It also ignores the fact that the 1970's marks the establishment of the first U.S. conservative think tanks (Heritage Foundation, Free Congress Foundation), which were funded by billionaires, and created in direct response to fighting the civil rights movement by establishing political influence and promoting conservative economic and social policies, which both ultimately favor the economic inequality that continues to dominate America in 2026.

    Tldr: To restore and preserve the conservative natural order and heirarchy, the policies promoted are always backed by a call to return to traditional values that require division by default.

    The traditionalist movement argues a woman's place is in the home, supported by a hardworking man. While equality based movements would argue a woman's place, (like any autonomous human being, regardless of class, race, or other identity like male, female, cis, trans, NB etc.), is wherever they want it to be. Whether that's at home, working, single, married, straight, queer, kids, no kids etc. It promotes equal choice for the individual rather than demanding conformity. The entire point is that there are no pre-established roles set out for her or anybody else.

    An equal society means opportunities and resources are available to everyone who chooses to pursue them, rather than kept locked away under the control of a small but heavily insulated and protected 1%, who then decide how to divide up whatever meager resources they're willing to allow the other 99% to share and fight over for their own survival.

    Edit: It's one thing to fall for propaganda because you don't know what's going on in the shadows. That's been a very intentional strategy of the attack on democracy for the last 50+ years. However, it's hard to imagine having that evidence presented to you, and intentionally choosing to be a willing cuck for the top 1% of the country. And yet ...

    Since 1975, nearly $80 trillion in wealth has been redistributed from the bottom 90% of Americans to the top 1%.

    •Heritage Foundation Influencewatch: The idea conceived in 1971 was presented to Coors Brewing Company president and right-of-center donor Joseph Coors in 1972, and Coors wrote out a $250,000 donation as the seed money for what became the Heritage Foundation (nearly $1.6 million in 2021 dollars). Feulner later said, “There wouldn’t be a Heritage Foundation without Joe Coors.”

    •Scaife’s philanthropy has had a disproportionate impact on the rise of the right, perhaps the biggest story in American politics in the last quarter of the 20th century... His money has established or sustained activist think tanks that have created and marketed conservative ideas from welfare reform to enhanced missile defense; public interest law firms that have won important court cases on affirmative action, property rights and how to conduct the national census; organizations and publications that have nurtured conservatism on American campuses; academic institutions that have employed and promoted the work of conservative intellectuals; watchdog groups that have critiqued and harassed media organizations, and many more...When it began to make a mark in the mid-1970s, Joseph Coors, the beer magnate, was commonly credited as its chief financial patron. Coors did put up the first $250,000. But within two years, according to Heritage officials, Scaife had given more than twice as much, and he has kept on giving ever since – more than $23 million in all, or about $34 million in inflation-adjusted, current dollars. At Heritage the joke was, “Coors gives six-packs; Scaife gives cases.”

    •Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaire$ Behind the Rise of the Radical Right

    The wealthy have always had disproportionate political influence in society, the United States of America included. In Dark Money, Jane Mayer presents a compelling account of how wealthy ultraconservative business leaders organized themselves over the past several decades to impose their political ideologies of anarchism on the rest of the nation.

    Part One focuses on the period from 1970 to 2008, when philanthropy was co-opted as a key participant in the war of political ideas and the free-market political machine, the Kochtopus, was assembled.

    •God, Trump and the Closed-Door World of a Major Conservative Group

    •Rand corporation 2023: Measuring the Income Gap from 1975 to 2023

    •Wealth Of The 1% Reaches Decade High In The U.S.

    The share of wealth owned by the 1% of richest people in the United States has reached a new record of 31.7% in the third quarter of 2025

    Don't forget to say thank you.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    Feels like a Facebook boomer meme

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    Variation on the joke.

    Parents of a high school age boy and girl have a photo on the living room wall.

    It's a picture of a fat, bald old man in a Speedo standing on a yacht with a pretty girl hugging him.

    "It's to inspire our kids to stay in school and get good grades. We want our son to try and be like the man, and our daughter not to be like the woman who is with him."

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    sad

    People will always need each other. Money doesn't change that. People need affection and intimacy. This culture war shit keeps us filtering the world though the "safety" of their apps instead of actually connecting with each other, which is why we're all so fucking miserable imo.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    No, no — now repeat after me:

    Men are bad.

    Unless you're a man at which point:

    Women are bad.

    I hope I helped.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Humans are bad. There are too many of us, so now we are trying to cannibalize each other. You can see in real-time that we don't value the average person at all, or even the exceptional person (unless they are famous, and part of a product we like).

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Those PC parts aren't gonna buy themselves.

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago*

    Is this a ragebait?

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago

    This reads like the "manspreading" video that Russia put out to get us to hate each other.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I make money to care for my son.

    And buy music.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Supporting the music industry is a felony.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You can buy music from places like bandcamp to support the artists directly ¯\(ツ)/¯

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    I just dont make money at all

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Yeah I don’t think that’s the cut down they think it is.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I'm short as fuck and socially inept. They're certainly not going to date me because I'm attractive.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago

    You just have to get older. I have it on good authority that the law of supply and demand turn things around - men can be old enough to have made money while still being able to date women young enough to not have made money (and no, we’re not Epstein related)

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    I make money so I stop drowning for another week or so before my head is plugged back under the icy depths

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    As a gay man I can whole heartedly tell you only women think men make money just to get women. Plus if a woman is attracted to a guy just because of wealth then that’s a doomed relationship, now go sip your tea

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    They forgot about the gays. Again.

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