https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
[D] is the weekday number, from 1 through 7, beginning with Monday and ending with Sunday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
[D] is the weekday number, from 1 through 7, beginning with Monday and ending with Sunday.
This could be every month if we adopted a 13 month calendar of 4, 7 day weeks. Works out very cleanly with only 1 extra day per year.
Combined with Holocene calendar and decimal time.. hnrggh.. one can dream! I actually designed a spreadsheet for exactly this and it works perfectly. Only issue is that it doesn't auto-update, you need to edit an empty cell of the spreadsheet (doesn't even need to be saved), for it to update to the current time.
Would be nice to have an installation that lets you use that calendar and time format...
The true ideal.
Behold Symmetry454, the TRUE true ideal.
While we're changing the calendar, can we rename September through December so they're not off by two?
Septem, Octo, Novem and Decem are the Latin words for 7, 8, 9 and 10 respectively, but they're actually the 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th months of the year. This is because the Roman calendar was originally only 10 months, but Julius Caesar inserted two new months in the middle, without renaming the last four.
Maybe the oldest tech debt in existence - the calendar was changed in 45 BC.
In Japanese months are named based on the number of the month, literally "first month" to "12th month", which is the most sensible way to do it
Why not just call February 2026 "month 2 of 2026" and call the 9th of February 2026 "the 9th of month 2 of 2026"
That's essentially how the Roman calendar was named for six out of the 10 months:
Agreed. It's so simple and beautiful.
The Gregorian calendar has nothing on this!
I like this better than the French revolutionary calendar's ten-day weeks. Maybe if they had included more than two weekend days people wouldn't have hated it so much
The best part is that every date (i.e. the 1st, the 22nd, etc) would always fall on the same day of the week, every month.
february 2026
mo tu we th fr sa su
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28
february 2027
mo tu we th fr sa su
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
I wish this is how we arranged it. Makes so much more sense
Alas, my brain is too used to wed in the middle
I have good news for you. Wednesday in German is Mittwoch=midweek
Yeah, becase it's in the middle of the week. The weekend is after the end of the week.
I only go by the Linux “cal” command.
right! like, why complicate things?
But my cal starts on Sunday. What are your locale settings?
that means (if your locale is set according to your position), you are probably somewhere in the blue area on this, while I'm in the orange.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg
“cal” command.
TIL about cal. It's a standard util-linux command! And it follow my locale automatically :0
Motu weth, fr'sa su
ISO-8601 strikes again. Sunday week start master race rejoice
Monday is the start of the week and I will die on this hill
100%. Saturday and Sunday are the weekend, you know, like the end of the week.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
[D] is the weekday number, from 1 through 7, beginning with Monday and ending with Sunday.
Who the hell starts the week with Sunday?
Brazil!
Monday is called "Segunda" wich means "second" and every weekday follows this. So the Nth day of the week is called Nth except weekends
Yeah well, it's called october but I still think of it as the tenth month 😬
I always think of segunda-feira as the first day of the week, despite the name; though it appears that calendars here start on Sunday (something I've never noticed).
While it is the first day of the work week, it makes more sense to think of it as the second day in Portuguese so the naming stays consistent.
The US people. There went "What does the whole planet start their week on? Really? Well in that case we'll pick Sunday".
A bit like what they did for pretty much everything else.
Uh, everybody? Mae’s the calendar so much neater seeing it bookended with weekend days on both sides.
Weeks start on Mondays
Depends, mine starts on Monday. I also live in SI and ISO. My wife’s starts on Sunday, she goes to church. Although I still don’t get that as the seventh day was a rest day.
It does sometimes make talking about Sunday next week confusing.
Because sabbath was the seventh day, the rest day. It predates Christianity. It’s like the very first book of the Old Testament…
What day was the Christian day of rest & worship day again?
Practically everyone should know SI, or have at least heard of it before. It's the standard system of measurement used in most of the world. It includes base units for time (seconds), distance (meters), mass (kilograms), electric current (amps), temperature (Kelvin), amount of a substance (mole) and intensity of light (candela), plus a bunch of units derived from these.
It's practically only the USA that doesn't use some of three units (for example, preferring feet over meters)
ISO is a standards body. They define a bunch of standards. One of the more well-known ones is ISO 8601, which defines standards for dates and times. It specifies that weeks start on Monday.
American self-reporting
I'd thought I'd see less people of the USA on Lemmy but it seems I cannot escape them
There are a lot of us! Especially on English-speaking forums. The US population is close to half of the entire population of Europe.
But there is a trick to almost completely avoid Americans: frequent a forum in any language other than English.
Says the person posting from a US instance…
All the different server instances are independently owned and maintained. Lemmy.world for example I believe is located in Germany or Netherlands, which I think is also where a lot of the admin staff are located? Lemmy.zip I think is hosted in the US. Check join-lemmy.org, I think it tells you where all the various instances are located. Or there’s a similar Lemmy stats site that shows it, I don’t recall exactly, which is why I keep saying “I think” as I would need to double check all that info to be sure. But it’s probably pretty close to accurate.
.world is nevertheless plastered with US politics, even the neutrally-named ‘politics’ and ‘news’ communities are in fact about the US. I wouldn't be surprised if the admins are in the US, just hosting the site in Europe.
The “communities” don’t necessarily reflect the instances on which they are hosted. There might be a politics or news community on some other instance which you prefer.
Pretty sure at least some of the admins there are in Europe.
I mainly switched off of .world because it was so heavily over-represented in the fediverse both in terms of communities and users. I was hoping to help distribute things more evenly which I think is more I. the spirit and intention of the fediverse.
And not sure why that other user deleted their comment, I was just trying to answer their question.
We have our ISO and Americans have their ANSI, everyone has something
What do people that start the week on sunday call the "weekend"? For them only Saturday is the weekend and Sunday is the weekstart or what?
Weekend like bookend, both sides.
Σαββατοκύριακο. Saturday and Sunday. It would be far weirder to start the week on Δευτέρα which literally meaning "second".
Of course in English and other languages Monday does not mean second. Still for Mose western (plus Arabs) Monday has been second after Sunday. Long before Saturday was a day off.
ISO defining the start of the week as Monday due to it being the first business day (lol) has comparatively little impact.
On Friday Americans wish each other a good weekend and weekstart, obv (if they even get both off, which sounds unlikely now I’ve said it).
This. Sunday is part of the weekend, not the weekstart.
But there's no such thing as the word "weekstart." Weekends are split in half. Saturday is the end of the week and Sunday is the beginning of the week. I am from USA and this has always been my understanding.
You gotta choose, either weekend = Saturday or weekend = Saturday + Sunday.
If your case is the 1st just say have a nice Saturday and Sunday. If you say have a nice weekEND for both days, Sunday is the last day of the week.
Sunday is on one end and Saturday is at the other.
So your week doesn't start ever. Only ends. How? Lets call 1st of January end of the year then.
Ffs...
Look up the definition of the word end. Stop thinking of it as THE end and street thinking of it as AN end. A length of string has two ends correct? A stick has two ends, correct? Here's a picture of my calendar at home. Note that Sunday is at one end and Saturday is at the other end.

Like bookends!
It depends on the country. While most countries start it in Monday, Sunday is also common, some muslim countries start it on Saturday, and Maldives starts the week on Fridays.
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