A new "white list" from SpaceX is shutting off Russia's illicit access to Starlink's satellite internet across the front line.

At shortly before 3:00 a.m. Kyiv time on Feb. 5, Elon Musk retweeted a new guide from Ukraine's Digital Transformation Ministry for registering a Starlink terminal within UkraSubsequently, a series of alarmed Russian social media posts indicate that Starlink terminals were disconnecting en masse along the front.

Three Ukrainian commanders, speaking to the Kyiv Independent on the condition of anonymity, reported intercepting messages from Russian forces complaining about Starlink terminals failing in large numbers.

Serhiy "Flash" Beskrestnov, a longtime commentator on electronic warfare more recently appointed as advisor to Defense Minister Mykhaylo Fedorov, said the "enemy at the front doesn't have a problem, the enemy has a catastrophe."

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[–] 201 points 9 months ago* (14 children)

Musk could have done that a long time ago. Instead he was blocking Ukraine's.

Fuck that traitor.

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  • [–] 117 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    He's only doing it now because his name got out on the Epstein emails. The russians lost their kompromat on him.

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  • [+] 33 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They embarrassed him many years ago, it's the whole reason SpaceX exists.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Can you elaborate for the uninformed?

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago*

    Before SpaceX, back when Musk had his X.com/PayPal money, he tried to buy an ICBM from Russia with the purpose of modifying it to launch a mission to Mars*.

    The last meeting they had about it, Russia basically laughed him out of the room after they'd already tried to fleece him. So he founded SpaceX to get there instead.

    * Mars mission was really just to move some plants and bacteria to Mars - within the space community, there are some that want to limit/prevent exploration of extraterrestrial bodies for sake of contamination, that our bacterial load might change the course of natural evolution on a planet. Musk wanted to 'pollute' Mars in order to make that argument no long viable.

    Early SpaceX is pretty wild.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Good observation. Now, on top of that he might have privileged information about the imminent fall of the ruSS economy ... making him lose his horrible bet in favor the invaders.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    This is an interesting point. It could be pure coincidence but we can't overlook the fact that Musk's actions noticeably changed from helping to hinder Ukraine's war efforts not too long after a phone call with Putin.

    So now he's a pedo AND a traitor.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    It is my impression that deep strike drones previously flew pre-programmed (attempting to locate the target using satnav, with some fancy versions using ground scanning lidar or machine vision).

    The problem of deep strike drones becoming remote-controlled seems recent, and Ukraine has been experiencing an increasing frequency of those since autumn. They've been attacking moving targets. One recently hit a locomotive moving on a railway, the other hit a bus full of miners.

    I don't know the background - was Starlink responsive or unresponsive, or did Ukrainians wait for a statistical curve of adoption to present itself and become certain, before asking Starlink to pull the rug.

    What is clear that Ukraine has worked out a way of registering and whitelisting their own Starlink terminals, and hasn't yet fully completed the process. Some Ukrainian units relying on small donors' Starlink dishes are still working to get theirs whitelisted. However, this likely can't be used to determine if Starlink was responsive to requests, as Ukraine would likely not start implementing a whitelist before getting a positive reply from Starlink - so the process becomes rushed for natural reasons.

    Russians have been observed cursing Musk in colorful ways. In several places, offensive operations have temporarily stopped because units had become over-reliant on Starlink, and considered Musk "their own guy".

    Next step: war of the mesh networks.

    Serhii Beskrestnov (radio amateur and now adviser to the Ukrainian defense ministry) has already pointed out that Russian drones are increasingly often providing connectivity to those that fly before them (expensive Chinese frequency hopping mesh radios have been recovered). While this dulls the edge of the swarm (the swarm has to be gradual, air defense will get time to reload) it requires Ukrainians to rework their jamming efforts and try to shoot down the relay nodes (which may be identifiable using signals intelligence). And of course, ideally, someone should talk to the Chinese companies, maybe offering to buy all the fancy mesh radios they make.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    why would any country's military build infrastructure on services from the United States privately owned by a guy notorious for being reckless and crazy and flipping switches just for clout? makes no damn sense

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    What replacement services are available? The American service actually works. Making your own would cost an order of magnitude more (as your contractors mysteriously "lose" half the money and bill the defence ministry 10 million roubles for "pens") and a decade of your time.

    Maybe they could hire Chinese firms to do it but I think China has a tendency to keep its military technology to itself.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    A big part of russian strategy (both military and political) is turning the wests own tools against it. Its how they manage to have such an outsized degree of political reach despite having the economy of a middle european power.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Good on Musk for doing that, finally.

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    [–] 33 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Why did they have it to begin with?

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Because Elon is in bed with Russia and also a pedophile.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    Because they used middlemen in Iraq and the other middle eastern countries to get the terminals. It's incredibly likely that this has been in the works for a little while now. You don't wanna accidentally cut off access to Ukraine while clearing out the bootleg clients from Russia.

    "There is no formal accusation that SpaceX is doing business with Russia directly - only that it might be failing to properly police redirection of its equipment to sanctioned entities like the Russian government."

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/08/is_russia_using_starlink_in/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rKu-1u2Le8

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Higher ups in the Urkainian military said that there was a lot of soldier bought, and donated starlink dishes, and trying to do a country wide whitelist was complicated, and soldiers said they didn't want to report their dishes because they were worried they'd be confiscated for other uses. I'm sure civilians were worried about it as well.

    Push came to shove though and they need to do it now.

    edit: Like imagine being in some hell hole trench with a starlink you bought/donated and it's your only lifeline outside, and you're worried the higher ups are going to say, we need that dish for a seababy.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Not in bed with so much as he he jerks off into a test tube then pays people to put that in their hoo haws, but yeah.

    Rumour is he got a penile extension and the procedure was botched, hence the in vitro stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    My question is, the russians need it? One would've presumed they had their own satelites for military purposes. But this 21st century has also taught me never to assume leaders know what they are doing.

    Russian used to build all of their military gear, all reverse engineered from western stuff. Now they are scavenging parts from consumer goods to make missiles and what have you. So maybe they haven't kept pace with satelite stuff?

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Oh look, the consequences of Elon being in the Epstein files.
    This is called PR.

    The questions should be:
    Why isn't he being prosecuted for being in the Epstein files?
    Why isn't he being prosecuted for supplying internet to militantly aggressive enemies of the US?

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