Or like, a CR2032.

honestly just having it remember the last time it last had would be big. my toaster oven does that so no time adjustment if it was a little brownout.

I’m in your boat. I don’t even change my clocks for DST anymore. It doesn’t really matter beyond a ballpark what time it is most of the time (and keeping to standard time means my animals’ schedules don’t get messed up every 6 months). If there’s an appointment or something that I need an actual time for, I have my phone with tons of alarm options so it’s fine.

I haven’t set my stove clock in ages, tho I get why it has one since I can program it to start at a certain time, but beyond that appliances shouldn’t even have always-on displays. What’s the purpose other than wasting electricity?

On the oven, I'll use the clock to see how long something has been baking for without pulling up my phone. Otherwise, the time it says doesn't mean much to me.

I'd rather just see a stopwatch-style function on it. Ovens usually have timers already, but sometimes it's nice to just manually track it, especially if you have to pull the food out to flip it or something mid-way.

I mean I do use clocks around the house and don't have a smartphone on me all the time but still the clocks on appliances can be off for awhile before I bother to set them again.

My old oven had Sabbath mode. It just stays on at a baking temp, and apparently because its considered a "golem" operating the "fire", then no work is done by a human so it is allowed.

To me that's just finding loopholes in your religion because you don't like its restrictions

I would be scared as fuck if a microwave started on its own. I mean so they are ready to put some slice of pizza they had the other day in at a specific time because they set it up to start the day before??? Also how many additional sales would they actually see with that feature. Im sorta aware of these things and I thought they were a bit premium and used even dumber setups. Like one was the thing is constantly trying to start itself and there is a thing that blocks it so you are not starting it but taking away the thing that keeps it from working automatically and then reblocking it.

while "sabbath mode" does indeed seem to be real, i cannot imagine this is something that sees any serious amount of usage, and i'd imagine most rabbis would tell you it's kind of silly because the point of sabbath is to not do work, and these appliances specifically exist so we don't have to do work.

If you start considering "putting food in the microwave and turning a dial to start it" as violating sabbath, you quite obviously then also can't go around turning door handles or using keys, or taking on/off clothes, or filling a glass of water, etc etc etc

What I'm pointing out is that this target audience of AI haters is actually the whole gaming community.

Where do you get that from?