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xkcd #3202: Groundhog Day Meaning

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Originally, the ceremony used a variety of rodents and mustelids, but over time most people agreed it made sense to standardize on a specific individual ground squirrel in Pennsylvania.

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Originally, the ceremony used a variety of rodents and mustelids, but over time most people agreed it made sense to standardize on a specific individual ground squirrel in Pennsylvania.

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[–] 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not every day that we get to see Black Hat lost.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You gotta have some standards. If you use a different rodent every year, you can’t realistically compare the results with one another. Who knows how wildly the measurement error varies from species to species?

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean, the one thing the comic gets wrong is that we never really settled on a standard, there are like 36 different regional rodents that are used., my favourite being Wiarton Willie:

    The story of Wiarton Willie dates back to 1956. A Wiarton resident named Mac McKenzie wanted to showcase his childhood home to his many friends, so he sent out invitations for a "Groundhog Day" gathering. One of these invitations fell into the hands of a Toronto Star reporter. The reporter travelled to Wiarton looking for the Groundhog Day event. None of the townspeople knew about a festival, but one suggested he check at the Arlington Hotel, the local watering hole. There the reporter found McKenzie and his friends partying and was invited to join them. The next day, the reporter lamented to McKenzie that he needed some kind of story to take back to justify his expenses. So McKenzie grabbed his wife's fur hat, which had a large button on the front, went out to the parking lot, dug a burrow in the snow and pronounced a prognostication (which no one remembers). The picture of Mac and the hat ran in the February 3, 1956 edition of the Toronto Star. A year later, about 50 people arrived for the festival.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    Weirdest? Please, take a look at any religious holiday. Let's take Easter, we celebrate resurrection of man-god who allowed himself to be killed so he could save us, and immediately after resurrection he transformed into god-god and moved to the sky. So anyway we make dyed eggs to celebrate it.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    celebrate resurrection of man-god who allowed himself to be killed so he could save us, and immediately after resurrection he transformed into god-god and moved to the sky.

    Man-god allowed himself to be killed to save us from the wrath of god-god. A being who was mad that the creatures he created weren't spending all day every day worshiping him exactly as he said to, after giving them the free will to do otherwise.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's a good holiday because it has the responsibility to not have a facade. What even is Christmas? A solstace celebration? A celebration of the natural forest? The birthday of someone who was probably born early fall? An excuse to give children gifts? Idk anymore man.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Shepherds only really stay out in their fields during calving season, i.e. And in Israel, that's mid-December to mid-January.

    But really, anything actually written about Jesus before the age of like 30, is likely completely made up during the Council of Nicaea in 325AD.

    Before that, the Trinity wasn't fully mainstream, because Jesus was considered a created being and not god himself. At least by a large percentage of early Christians.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    There really is an xkcd for everything.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    what is Walter White doing in this cartoon?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it doesn't have anything to do with the movie Groundhog Day in which the main character relives Groundhog Day over and over again? I don't think anybody used "groundhog day" as a synonym for "personal time loop" before the movie.

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    [–] 61 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    What about the one where we celebrate nailing a guy to a tree by distributing eggs via a bunny.

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Well, actually, we celebrate the guy becoming zombie three days after nailing him to wood.
    Also, the guy is often called "the lamb".
    So we naturally eat roasted lamb as a traditional celebration, while the bunnies hide colored eggs for us to search.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Technically, he retained his powers after resurrection, so he was a Lich, not a zombie. I don't know if anyone figured out his phylactery, but my best bet would be the wood he was nailed to.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    I mean, a guy sneaking into your house at night and leaving you β€œpresents” under a tree you’ve cut down and brought into your house for no other reason has to be up there too, right?

    And don’t get me started on how fucked up Thanksgiving is.

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  • Not to mention that Santa is a prolific home-wrecker, as millions of children have witnessed him making out with one of their parents' partners.

    Probably the weirdest thing to me about Thanksgiving is that it wasn't even remotely real in the sense of being founded on a historically coherent event. Perhaps this is just the nature of mythology. Thanksgiving was a religious fasting ritual at the time. Sharing a meal with indigenous people was a coincidence during a harvest festival, which isn't exclusive to any one religion or even spirituality at all. It's two, entirely unrelated things that got crammed into a single tradition because they occur roughly during the same season. Also, there was a lot of ethnic cleansing before and after, but that doesn't go well with primary school history class, so let's leave that bit out.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago

    Originally, the ceremony used a variety of rodents and mustelids, but over time most people agreed it made sense to standardize on a specific individual ground squirrel in Pennsylvania.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    the weirdest US holiday is all the ones where they call it a holiday and don't get time off work

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You probably know this, but it's what remains of the Celtic festival of Imbolc. It's the first of the three spring festivals. Ostara you definitely know since it was coopted by the church along with the eggs and rabbit symbology.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This claim is marked "citation needed" on Wikipedia :)

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    You can add my post πŸ˜€.

    Wikipedia gets strange in some articles, and this is definitely one of them. St Brigid is a Catholic thing, not a wheel of the year feast. Why the conflation here? I don't know.

    There are a number of articles that talk about the "awakening" aspect of Imbolc, and it is associated with other hibernating animals peeking out of their dens to see what's up. So the groundhog in the American context is a natural one.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    One of the people who wrote or produced that movie said they thought Bill Murray was in the loop for 1000 years before he became a good person. I don't think it'd take that long, but sure.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Thought the script said he repeated that day for million years. Just watch it last night always a joy.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I think the 1000 or millions years was just in one version of the script but was deemed a little too dark. But maybe I’m wrong.

    I also watched it last night and it is indeed always a joy!

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I just saw it again this week, too!

    It sounds like he learned two new languages. That's several years right there. He mastered the piano at a professional level at a late age. That's nearly impossible for most people, and would take a decade or so.

    He has an intimate knowledge of every single person in the entire town, such that he can effortlessly rattle off the entire life history of any one of them. That's at least another ten years. More importantly, he's able to predict what people would do in different situations. He didn't just memorize the routine of the town and everyone in it, he memorized most of the variations of the routines. That's information orders of magnitude larger than just the history of everyone in the town and their actions in a single day. He was there for a long time. 1000 years isn't unreasonable.

    Still, we only see his experiences for a few days. It's possible that was the intent of the writers and director, but at a certain, point it doesn't matter, because art is as much about what the audience perceives as what the author intended, perhaps more so as time goes on. I think it's safe to assume he was there for at least hundreds of years in the cannon of that story. We just see his first day, his last day and a few days scattered in between among the myriad of those during his time loop internment.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    the ground boy saw his shadow for anyone wondering

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    It is what it is

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    """""Our"""""

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