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[–] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

I imagine one could replace the hardware with something else to drive the display portion. It'd take knowledge and a soldering iron, but I'm sure it's doable.

Probably they have some sort of sensor behind the lower screen that can tell if it's covered. I wonder how sophisticated that is. Perhaps, rather than covering it completely, it could be obscured behind a crystal pattern plastic sheet, like is used for privacy. It would still let the light through, but it would just be an incoherent light pattern. Build a box to enclose the bottom half, and hold the sheet out a few inches in front of the panel.

EDIT: The correct way to deal with it is to disable the backlight on the bottom display. Found a reddit post about it. It's cheap and easy enough to do if you have a soldering iron.

EDIT 2: Apparently it does not have a way to detect if the bottom screen is blocked. Fools. Just build a box around the bottom part, and you're done. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qD-jaukv85U

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago*

    I would have no objections to literally spray painting that lower screen Tremclad Black. Is that all the tv can do though? I would imagine it's also stealing as much data of yours as it can and possibly even listening in. Also what if there's ad sound...?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    I read their TOS when this first was announced and they had something like they'll bill you the full cost of the TV if you tamper or obscure it and they deemed the cost of the TV as $1k USD.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    How would they know you've done it? Do they have a way to detect you putting a sheet in front of the bottom screen?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There is a camera on the front. That could be used to detect obstructions or for eye tracking. There could also be additional sensors by the bottom screen that can detect obstructions.

    If you fail to plug the TV into the internet within 5 days of receiving and keep it connected they'll charge you $1000. If you take it apart they'll charge you $1000.

    The video above does not go into detail on the long term implications of obstruction and it's possible the TV does not react immediately to an obstruction.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago

    Advertising is a curse on humanity

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    And a free tv.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Because it's a stupid idea that no one asked for.

    TVs have gotten really cheap, but even if you can't afford those they are easy to find at thrift shops or even people giving them away if you have a little bit of patience. Suffice it to say, this has a very narrow target audience.

    These are basically e-waste.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So ready for them to become e-waste.

    Can you imagine the possibilities on re-purposing these if they get cheap enough to experiment with after the company goes bankrupt.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    there’s likely very little experimentation needed… ripping the panel out and attaching an HDMI controller from aliexpress to it would likely be extremely straight forward

    apple is one of the most proprietary companies in existence and you can do this easily with ipad screens and generic controllers… the same goes for most panels: there’s really not that much difference in the actual “expensive” part, and afaik very little you can do to protect it from this kind of thing

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Just mount the soundbar on top of that shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    It's as popular as the Fire Phone!

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    [–] 75 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Surprised it’s that high of a number.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It’s free though. As in you can “buy” it to try and hack it or just not use it to make the company lose money.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There's a contract, modifying it or using it as not intended (or not using it at all) can make them request the unit back, if you don't comply they could take you to court. I doubt that happens but the threat is there.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    If there is a contract then that’s not a thing you own, it’s more like you leasing your living room.

    I can leave everything I own in a storage space, if I can’t then I don’t own it.

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  • [+] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    10 percent of Telly's shipments through FedEx arrived broken

    No big surprise there. Shipments I get through FedEx are always beat to hell.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Or the fuckers claim they couldn't deliver, or it goes on the truck, off the truck, repeat 2x, lost, then found 1 month later, or they back up over your pavers off a driveway that's 7 cars wide, or leave your shit at side of said driveway instead of walking it to the porch 20ft away (one of these happens with every one of my FedEx deliveries) UPS usually does great, except the one moron that left my daughter's $3k medicine by the trashcans down my hill.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I cut the drivers (not the company) slack for some of this sort of stuff. I had a friends dad that delivered for UPS apparently the expectations are impossible. You don't leave till deliveries are done but it's not possible to do in a normal day. Marking things delivered that weren't was apparently the only way to see his family sometimes.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago
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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    That's the neat part, the USA, being known for moronic decisions, made it so circumventing DRM measures on hardware you own is a federal crime. Telly detects you attempted to do that, Telly can send you to prison.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    You can do it yourself, but the actual crime is if you tell someone how to circumvent it.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    “Honey I’m home!

    sits down

    Work was great today sweety, we made some great ads, and not just any old boring ad. Genuine addiction inciting, mouthwatering, shake-em-down kind of ads!

    Yeah we do great things at the ad factory.”

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This mean that they are not interesting for ad providers -> the might go out of business soon -> free TV with no ads -> now I want one

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    I have so many ideas how to circumvent or exploit that on multiple levels.

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    There's a Black Mirror episode with TVs just like these

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I don't remember this one? I remember one where a woman with an implant is forced to "play" commercials.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I wonder how much money consumers will spend on products that are advertised to them when they won't even buy a TV...

    Also I wonder what the quality is like on a "free" TV...

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    When I heard about it before, they were repurposing old 720p panels.

    With how cheap 4K sets are these days, these free TVs are for people who can't even afford that. I'd say they're useful as a secondary use for the heat they generate, in that case.

    That said, I'd be fine with always on ads if ads and sponsorships never interrupt my content. Like if I'm watching a YouTube video and it's 4:3, I'm perfectly fine with YouTube filling the sides with ads, as long as they don't make noise, and as long as I can watch the content uninterrupted. If the video is 16:9 and fills my TV (or monitor), I'm fine propping my iPhone up. They can even use Face ID to pause the content if I look away, as long as I don't have to look right at the ad (I'll be watching the content).

    Advertising pays for stuff, and if it doesn't get in the way of stuff, I don't hate it. They should try working with people rather than straight up exploiting everyone. That just leads to people turning off the ads using a third-party method (e.g. Firefox with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock). Or I'll just download the video with jdownloader2.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Like if I’m watching a YouTube video and it’s 4:3, I’m perfectly fine with YouTube filling the sides with ads

    Look at the photo in the OP. The ads are on a completely separate (attached) display.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    That said, I’d be fine with always on ads if ads and sponsorships never interrupt my content. Like if I’m watching a YouTube video and it’s 4:3, I’m perfectly fine with YouTube filling the sides with ads, as long as they don’t make noise, and as long as I can watch the content uninterrupted.

    Similarly, but not quite same (because it is in the actual content rather than off to the side): I'm not bothered by ads on sports uniforms or on the field. When something exciting is actually going on, I don't notice them at all. I notice when there is a stoppage of play, but I don't consider this to be intrusive.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Personally, I don't think I'd want a free TV that perpetually pelts me with ads

    Uhh, surely there must be a way to disable this once the TVs are in our hands.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    "Oops, looks like my hammer wii remote flew into the ad screen and now it doesn't work"

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Ow! My Balls!

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I thought the Salesman was a work of fiction.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    TVs are so cheap. I don't understand the business model.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    line must go up, when all other avenues of generating revenue have been cornered the only path left to make line go up is ever more intrusive ads and similar rent-seeking/inshittification.

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    Running man

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