You clearly don't understand how hypocritical this is. We coerced Europe into being this way. It's only in the last 10-15 years or so that we started asking them to contribute more militarily.

Our strategy against the Soviets was for Europe to hold them off while the US brought over an expeditionary force that would push the Soviets back. Europe would provide most of the financial support.

Now some Americans are acting like they ripped us off. Just more backstabbing fake grievance bullshit designed to slander democracies because democracy and pluralism are the enemy now.

From a pure realpolitik point if view, alienating Europe while they're beginning their next rearmament era is a pretty fucking stupid move. They have three times our population and it wasn't that long ago that Europe had the strongest militaries in the world. If they reach that point again the US will not be the global hegemon anymore and Americans won't like that because we've benefited from it economically. Though at this point it's very clear the world is better off with saner hegemony under other countries.

We'll be falling behind China in science and engineering soon enough too. China, the EU and various middle powers are all making moves to fill the soft power hole left by the current administration. All because dipshit magas only believe in hard power and bullying people like cavemen.

You are not getting the full picture. NATO by design used to exist to keep Europe small militarily under US supervision, because the US wanted to avoid another Nazi-like regime from taking hold in Europe. That was the deal post WW2. The EU doesn't grow their armies to the point they could reasonably threaten the US, and they provide that necessary protection instead. So the US inherently didn't want the EU to have too much defense spending, and to follow their lead so they could keep control. And with how weak Europe was after WW2, they could not really refuse nor reject that.

In return, EU specialized in trade and manufacturing, something the US wanted. Hence why they are such big trading partners still. It's not like the US was just snoozing at the wheel for more than two decades as defense spending went down. There was always caution (and honestly, the EU shouldn't have ignored this) that more defense was going to be needed, but the status quo was always by mutual consent, as the US also benefited from essentially it's own continent wide production factory while it could do what it does best at home (it's military). And until Russia invaded Ukraine, nobody could even begin to sell the idea of more defense spending to the people, as that would too have increased prices for the US. And the US could have escalated if more defense spending was a dealbreaker to them, but they did not until Trump, because it would have just been a bad change without the hindsight of 2021.

Frankly, this notion that the EU took advantage of the US is really just MAGA propaganda. The same way Trump is now making the despicable claim that EU soldiers didn't die enough for when the US, the single country that ever invoked NATO's article 5, invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. When the US under Trump realized they could just not uphold their part of the system in place, as Trump does not understand diplomacy and soft power, that's what he did, and defense spending was just the easy excuse if you ignore all that historical context.

Jeez, who pulled you out of /r/thedonald's casket? Are they reassigning people to haunt Lemmy now?

No. Your position is what gave Nazi Germany the opportunity to do all the things it did. Russia is kidnapping Ukranian children, sending drones into EU territory, sabotaging infrastructure with their shadow fleet, manipulating American elections, and more.

Russia is an enemy of the EU, and should be taken care of. Delaying what must be done, will only ensure that Russia and Dogey America can work together to spitroast European nations.

It depends on what is meant by “destroy”. I interpret it as “destroy in its current form”, not “erase from the map”.

Destroy in the way that Nazi Germany was destroyed, or the British Empire was destroyed. The people and places still exist, but are structured differently.

Not in the way that Palestine is being destroyed now where there is literally bare emptiness where the people were.

The destruction of Nazi Germany is a good thing. Same goes for Imperial Japan, and the American Confederacy. The Russia we have today sucks, and should be taken out. The people of Russia certainly aren't benefiting from their leadership, and sometimes an forceful change by external powers is the better way out of a bad situation.

As an American, I am expecting a 2nd American Civil War. I would like outside nations to align against Dogey America, be it by pen or sword. What is good for the goose, is also good for the gander.

nazi simp. ewwwwww