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What are some movies that didn't deserve to flop? Discussion (piefed.social)
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[–] 41 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. Huge loss in cinema, big win when it get out in DVD. It make so little money that universal changed how they write movies after that

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    It was kind of the last in a long line of Universal movies that bombed at the box office and then went on to become cult classics after home video release.

    My four favorites, in roughly five year increments:

    Tremors Mallrats Josie and the Pussycats Scott Pilgrim vs the World

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    • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Blade Runner 2049 is a masterpiece.

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  • [+] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Yeah I like the original Dune very much too. But it's not a masterpiece. Just an underrated flick full of great actors.

    But I will say this: even if you think 1984 Dune was meh, go watch Villeneuve's version with the most unconvincing Paul Atreides in the history of unconvincing actors (Timothy Chalamet), the appalling Lady Jessica with zero expressions and zero acting skills (Rebecca Ferguson), and Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto who manages the incredible feat of being as shit in Dune as he was in Star Wars.

    Then watch David Lynch's again: you'll enjoy it all the more.

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    • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Edge of Tomorrow didn't do great when it was in theatres but turned into something of a 'cult classic' years later. I didn't know what to expect going in but enjoyed it quite a bit.

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  • [+] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    The original name was live, die, repeat. And i think it goes way harder.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Other way around. The theatrical release was "Edge of Tomorrow" with "Live, die, repeat" as the tagline. The tagline was more recognizable than the title, so the titled the home release after the tagline. The sequel, if it ever makes it out of development hell, is just going straight for the home release title as "Live Die Repeat and Repeat."

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    [–] 28 points 9 months ago

    Dredd

    That movie was killed by poor marketing that played up nothing but the 3D aspect of it. They even named it in the trailers as Dredd 3D.

    All they had to do is air the first 30 seconds of the movie as a trailer and it would have been off to the races...

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    [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    John Carter didn't deserve the hate it got. It wasn't a masterpiece, but it got done dirty.

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    • [–] 21 points 9 months ago

    Treasure Planet

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    [–] 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The movie was fine, but damn, all i could see was that they tried to be a marvel movie so bad. People love quips, everyone needs to have quips. Has anyone said: thank god he's on our side yet? Shit that's brilliant, put that in.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I don't disagree that it was a very quippy movie, but I'm not sure it's a bad thing? I feel like tables which have a consistent, dramatic tone throughout a campaign are much more the exception than the rule (and often populated by professional creatives). In my experience, most campaigns wind up being occasional islands of drama surrounded by a nonstop stream of attempts (of varying quality) to make each other laugh. Sometimes, you can even hold the drama. Idk, like I said, I understand why it would annoy you, given the wider movie landscape, but I also feel like it was authentic to an "average" game of a 5e DnD, and therefore it didn't bother me.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the more earnest takes on epic fantasy that have been set in the Forgotten Realms / DnD, but I also get that coming out treating DnD as Very Serious Business (TM) was going to be a pretty tough sell.

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    • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Evolution. The David Duchovny one

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    • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Event Horizon

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    [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Big Trouble in Little China. Was expected to be the smash hit of 1986, but poor marketing killed it. Perhaps it was also a decade or three ahead of its time.

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Tomorrowland (2015), it's a bit all over the place with pacing/story but still a really fun movie.

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    • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Kubo And The Two Strings. It's legitimately beautiful, well done, tells a heart wrenching story, and the owner of the studio does it for the art, not to make money.

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    [–] 20 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    The Star Wars Solo movie. They barely marketed for it, iirc, which is a shame, because I thought it was pretty good! And it set up stories that I’ll be bummed we don’t get to see play out. Plus Donald Glover as Lando was beautiful casting

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    My kid and I argue about this. He hates it, but I think you gotta come at it like Han is telling the story. Not my favorite SW movie, but way better than a lot of the other filler we got. Its a fun movie told by an outrageous liar.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I think the problem with Solo is that it was released just a few months after The Last Jedi. People were possibly Star Wars fatigued by this point. (Just speculation)

    Disney were releasing one film a year, Force Awakens (2015), Rogue One (2016) and The Last Jedi (2017). Each film was released in December of their respective years, including Rise of Skywalker which came out in 2019. Why release Solo in March?

    Considering the drastic reshoots and production issues to get the film done, I would've thought aligning the film to December would've of given production more time to breathe. PS I would love to see more of the footage shot by Lord & Miller, but just like the Rogue One reshoots, that's locked in the Disney vault, never to be seen.

    PS - I really like Solo as a movie. It's a lot of fun and I own it on 4K!

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That movie was terrible.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    For Disney star wars movie standards, it was indeed good. But so pointless. Hey anyone wanna know why his name is solo?

    No?

    Alright, here we go.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    i agree that Disney Star Wars Movie standards are really low, thing is so were/are Lucasfilsm, or are you just pretending the prequels don’t exist.

    I don’t agree that Solo was better than any of the Star Wars since Episode One.

    Even by Disney and Lucasfilm Star Wars standards Solo was a really shitty movie.

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Babylon. Everybody hated it, I loved everything about it. The excess, the color, the sprawling epic, the acting, the music. Underrated, underappreciated masterpiece, there will be a re-appraisal at some point.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Babylon is easily one of my top 3 of all time. It was a ride from start to finish.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Exactly, I don't understand why more people don't love it. Mostly because they haven't seen it, probably.

    I did catch the NBA using the party music to promote the draft one year. I was like "What is that music, it sounds familiar...," then I realized it was from the party scene at the beginning of Babylon.

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    • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Alita battle angel!!

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    • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    So many movies that are panned by critics and people searching for the next Citizen Kane dont deserve their reputations.I liken it to food, if the chef set out to make Pepperoni Pizza then you have to review it as Pepperoni Pizza. If you review it as "the worst soup I ever had" then its not a bad pizza, you're a fucking idiot.

    Some movies are just "good fun" they arent trying to be something they arent or break new ground in cinema. I love the White Men Cant Jump remake because its fun.

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Donnie Darko

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    [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Josie and the Pussycats

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    [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    John Carter.

    I still hope for the sequel to be made. I guess Disney were too busy securing the rights to star wars in the background that they didn't even market it in Europe. Never saw anything promoting it.

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