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[–] 70 points 9 months ago (9 children)

We know. But more people should.

The whole point of the government shutdown was to start riots. The Republicans wanted to take healthcare from millions. The Democrats stopped them, but the cost was SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The Republicans were willing to starve their voting base to push the healthcare cuts — either would likely result in riots. Now it's literally attacking Americans. The goal is to push martial law and suspend elections. That is the whole point.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I live in a hard red area and a huge number of families here depend on SNAP and food stamps. They are also heavily armed.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Don't worry. The Great Leader will speak on Foxnews saying that he had to remove the food stamps because of any racist shit and they will use those firearms to hunt non-whites as if they were paid for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    So?

    I mean, a lot of people who are heavily armed, prior to 2020, used the historical justification of the Second Amendment to justify being heavily armed. That a well-regulated militia (guys who know how to handle guns, essentially) was necessary to protect the country from tyranny. Only, a lot of these guys (who voted red and who didn't vote blue) sat back and let tyranny take over. They either wanted it to happen, or they had the opportunity to vote against it and chose not to.

    So I gotta ask of guys like that: what does it matter they're armed? At this point they're all just cosplaying. Because they had the opportunity to do what their forefathers did and they did fuck-all about it.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    And with a minimum of three more years of this, they will eventually get what they want. There is no way that this administration ends without the US military acting against domestic Americans, at some point. It is going to happen.

    As much as I'm tempted to play the accellerationist and demand that we give them what they're asking for, I know that we can't rip off the bandaid like that. Americans are not yet mentally prepared to take up arms against their government. The government will strike first, after they exhaust all attempts to get the people to make the first move. Trump needs martial law or some equivalent immunity before his time in the Oval Office is up.

    Our best bet might be that Trump dies of a blood clot, Vance is too unlikable to hold the tenuous fascist truces together, and the momentum falls apart.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    They already have. They executed a woman on the streets because she saw too much, or they thought she did. She didn't do anything wrong, but they decided that she needed to die rather than be allowed to leave peacefully, as she was trying to do. She was a white woman, not an immigrant. (She was also gay, but they probably didn't know that at the time.) And they still executed her right then and there on the spot.

    Side note: is your avatar the playable character from Noita?

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago

    Tim Walz hurt his feelings during the election. Trump couldn't even find Minnesota on a map he's just unbelievably fragile and petty

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  • [–] 88 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Donald trump is not intelligent enough to create this plan. Let’s not forget he is only the figurehead for an entire movement.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Let's also not forget that, unlike Trump, the powers behind the throne don't get SS protection.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    The people behind him are making these plans. Trump only interests are money or things that look rich, which is why it's so easy to believe he wanted a ballroom. These Holocaust 2.0 steps that are happening are likely the work of Stephen Miller and Peter Thiel.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    Wasn't sure if this was just a population thing, so:

    State | population | Undocumented est |  % undocumented
    TX    |     31M    |     2.0 M        |   6.4%
    FL    |     23M    |     1.2 M        |   5.2%
    IL    |     13M    |     0.59 M       |   4.5%
    MN    |     5.8M   |      100 k       |   1.7%
    CA    |     39M    |     2.9 M        |   7.4%
    
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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    It basically is. California has the most, then texas, then Florida. All around the same percentage.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    MN has a substantially lower percentage, so not a population thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm not talking about ICE. I'm talking about how Florida and Texas have more. It's the same as showing a map of a statistic and it's basically just a population map.

    ICE being in Minnesota is because Donny got his feelings hurt.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No it's not a population thing because MN's percentage is substantially lower. It's not a population map because MN's percentage is substantially lower. That's what the original comment meant. You have this all twisted up somehow so I'm just gonna leave it here.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    The original comment says "this". The original post mentions both TX and FL immigrant population as well as MN.

    "This" could be interpreted two different ways in relation to the original comment. I took it to mean that the volume of immigrants per state in relation to total population of the original mentioned FL and TX.

    The percentage doesn't matter. The percentage count be .001% or it could be 30% and they'd still go after someone that hurt Don's feelings.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago

    Even my hard red family member told me they want to incite violence. I couldn't tell if he thought it was good or bad though.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    ICE is obviously a secret police force. This was already clear when the regime (with extensive support from the Democrats btw) approved a budget for this "agency" that exceeds the military spending of medium-sized countries.

    What is so difficult to understand about this? The economic elite in the US, which has been ruling the country de facto for ages, now wants to transition to a more Russian-style system (open autocracy with corresponding repressive measures), and ICE is ideally suited to make undesirable dissidents disappear.

    I think everyone has been aware of this since around February 2025, except apparently the US citizens, who, despite all the absurdity, still cling to the illusion that the US is a constitutional state or even a democracy - which has not been the case for at least 30 years.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Yep. And it is this delusion that allows US citizens to be subjugated so completely to Putin's 84th subject.

    So long as they continue to believe it, they’ll allow ICE to abduct anyone they want in their Blue “state.”

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    I did some math.

    Florida population: 23M

    Florida undocumented/capita: 1 in 19

    Minnesota population: 5.8M

    Minnesota undocumented/capita: 1 in 58

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    @DougHolland ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!The sad part of the 🍊 💩 is that he now accepts that he has conquered the US and his new target is controlling the world! Just look at the chaos level that he is generating on the world stage!

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Clear as day.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    That didn't vote for Trump and will be more likely to resist the invasion. Florida and Texas would invite them into their homes and throw block parties for ICE. They want the resistence.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I hate to burst your bubble, but ICE is all over both Florida & Texas, your corporate news media simply isn't reporting it.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    This is middle school level retaliation. Conservatives are immature turds.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe the Republican states should try leftist solutions for solving illegal immigration.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They are swarming Florida and Texas. And with comparatively much more cooperation/less protest, because they are more popular there. The white house even made a post bragging about how rent was down in Texas.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Arm all Minnesotans and Illinoisians

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Don't forget about Maine, which ICE is gearing up for next, probably because Governor Mills sticking up against Trump.

    Not sure how accurate this is, but Maine has a whooping 5,000

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    @DougHolland exactly...its intimidation...

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Listen, facts and math aren't their strengths.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I'm not disputing the facts here, but don't think that immigrants in Texas are going unharassed.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Well, they're not going after the Florida immigrants. Because the Bratvas are fucking insane, and they will start a war with ICE.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    "There are X undocumented"

    Are they documented or undocumented, I don't follow.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Undocumented just means an immigrant who is likely here illegally. There are ways to determine the amount of people currently living/residing in a city without them having officially registered with the government (e.g. census surveys historically never cared if a person was illegal or not, they only cared about counting people).

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They are undocumented, that's why it's an estimate.

    Honestly not sure if serious or a joke, but I've seen things today that make me believe anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    A lot of them are documented, hence the targeted deportations of some people (they've also done plenty of just untargeted "papers please" harassment of anyone who doesn't look white enough, so not actually like their lie ). They just don't have a citizenship or a visa.

    Some aren't documented, some are.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    There’re estimates, but since we want to play coy and side with fascist dictators who are using special military forces against their own people for not voting for them:

    If the problem is people crossing the southern border, why is ICE in the most northern states?

    Ok, now argue the actual point.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I was in Austin, TX not long ago, and they were swarming the whole city. I think people just made less of a deal about it there.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    let's not point them at even more vulnerable people than they're already brutalizing.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah nobody tell ICE about the states they're deliberately not targeting

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    nobody should justify oppression anywhere

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I don't think OP or anyone here wants ICE to go after the undocumented people anywhere, it's just pointing out the true intent of ICE to the people who think otherwise.

    That said, if it's gonna happen at all I would prefer it happen in red states so they see it with their own eyes and feel the impact more.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    This argument won't work on the people you're trying to target.

    "Well, duh. Most of the illegals have made homes in the US closest to their countries of origin"

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    holy shit, yikes

    do y’all hear yourselves sometimes???

    "erhm, why is the fascist police targeting us, agreeable white liberals? shouldn’t they be targeting those undocumented immigrants, who live in red states? whom they’re definitely not already attacking, alligator alcatraz, what’s that? where was it? minnesota, right?"

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  • [+] -19 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Yes let me blindly believe numbers with no source.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You are correct, according to government data for 2023 the Florida and Texas numbers here are a little low. Additionally, the estimate for Illinois is also a little high. If you look at the government estimates, the point of the posting only becomes more true

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    In the case of Minnesota, I think it's more about the fraud. But I'm not really sure they thought it out, because the distraction actually serves Walz more than hurts him.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    [Citation Needed]

    The admin used "fraud" as a justification every time the national guard or ICE was deployed to a state that didn't want them. Unless you have something more specific in mind with verifiable and corroborated sources, claiming fraud is just doing their work for them.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Oh well, there is verifiable fraud and lots of it. If you think otherwise then you arent paying attention or you are intentionally turning a blind eye.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Your response to being asked to cite your sources is to double down on not providing any whatsoever, and then following up with an ad hominem?

    Yeah, this ain't worth my time. The point of providing sources isn't just to prevent the spread of disinformation, but to correct misinformation. If your specific source later turned out to be incorrect or misinterpreted, anybody could point that out and help everybody be better informed. That is especially important when making an assertion on something that already has active disinformation campaigns surrounding it.

    If you want to contribute positively to public discourse, you need a better strategy for fulfilling your burden of proof than the modern equivalent of "well, how about you prove God doesn't exist".

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    The fraud!? The investigation took place under Biden's DOJ and was handed off to Trump. Local authorities had been investigating it before Biden. It is not new at all.

    The biggest fraud was perpetrated by a white women who used Somalis who come from a very corrupt area already. She took advantage of them because they didn't really know better.

    Trump and company are openly committing tens of billions of dollars of fraud as we speak. It is not about the fraud unless it is merely a distraction. This administration played hard it would uncover fraud, but the truth is it is committing fraud.

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