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[–] 176 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It's like their ugliness went from inside to outside.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's like most science fiction revolving around this particular topic. The ostentatious need to show off this sort of perverse wrecking of somebody's skin and face is meant to signal something. This is a modern version of being fat to show that you have wealth.

    It's meant to show that you have the disposable income to become whatever version of beautiful Trump wants. In this case it's seeking out Eastern European features one faces that otherwise wouldn't house them.

    And why everything looks like a goddamn clown mask. They've gone too far too fast and with too much modification. Welcome to repo the genetic opera or so many other stories.

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  • [–] 145 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face

    Writing for Mother Jones, Inae Oh calls Mar-a-Lago face "gender-affirming care the right can celebrate".[7]

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  • [–] 129 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    they're against someone else using surgery to affirm themselves, but then they need surgery to affirm themselves

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    Well, tbf demonstrating that the rules don't apply to the in-group is part of fascism. It's kinda funny that they're this committed to the bit though, they look like absolute freakish ghouls now and will never be the same.

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  • [+] 172 points 9 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Recently saw a video from an ex-maga, ex-mormon woman who speaks about these people and it was specifically about this face. she said they look like that because they're doing drag. i see it. it's performative gender expression.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    What interests me is that I've never once heard an actual explanation. "They're doing drag" might be true in an analytical sense from an outside perspective. But it's not the reason they do it.

    One would assume the reason you start is because you're encouraged to get some Botox and subtle touch-ups are a very beauty trend among women. But they all end up with very similar features and it's always overdone. So there must be common pushes and pulls. I would just like to hear it in their own words what has led them to this.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It’s more that they do what drag typically mocks - that kind of hyper performance of feminine conformity. Classic drag has always been mocking the way that conservative women perform gender roles.

    It’s supposed to look like they got work done, because it reflects their commitment to the idea that women should be always performing “woman.” Women are meant to be looked at by powerful men, and they are acceding to that understanding.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago*

    Again, I agree with you, you basically repeated and expanded on the point of the person I replied to. Like what you're giving me is a good anthropological analysis.

    But if you asked these women why/how they got to this point they would not say "well I'm just commiting to my performance of being a woman to appease the male gaze"

    For one thing, most of them probably still hold agency to themselves despite the fact that it seems clear they are doing this to appease men. They would most likely have explanations for all their changes and who/what influenced them.

    A terrifying probability is that these women literally get told by their spouses/others that if they don't get these specific surgeries they won't be able to do something. If it's that then I would like to know who specifically tells them this and what they tell them.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    I can say as someone who's seen similar things in different groups it's body dysmorphia. You focus on a flaw you want to fix enough to pay to get it fixed and it's better, but if you don't have discipline about it you're prone to still see it. It's similar to anorexia where they go from seeing fat that may or may not be there to seeing the torso bulge of having organs and thinking that it's fat.

    Then there's social factors. If your social group has worries, well humans tend to echolocate reality off what those around us think and say, so you're prone to the same worries and the same solutions.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago

    Loomer looks more like a drag queen than most drag artists.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The exaggerated features almost remind me of stage makeup. Stage makeup isn't meant to look good close up or under normal lighting, but is meant to be viewed from the back of the theater and under bright lights from above.

    There may be a core of this group that was originally styling, using cosmetics, and undergoing treatment with the goal to look a certain way from a distance in photos and on video (but not necessarily up close and in person). From there, the acolytes followed the styles not realizing why they were chosen.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'd guess shitty doctors promising things they can't deliver is also a contributing factor. Or maybe just straight up lies about what is attractive. Those swollen lips are such a turn off.

    But then again, I'm also turned off by a lot of breat implants but some guys seem to love it, so maybe my tastes aren't the average. Though I really do wonder how much the average person goes along with what others say is attractive vs making up their own mind.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I have to wonder who decided that large breasts are supposed to be attractive. Like when did we have that conversation?

    It's not like people are out there having enlarged shoulders. So it's not just the bigger is better.

    I'm convinced that plastic surgeons just told these women that men find unrealistically large breasts more attractive simply because breast enlargement is an easy thing to do and it's a quick win for them.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The evil manifests physically.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago* (13 children)

    Man how do so mamy have horrifying lips? I'm generally against body shaming but lip and cheek surgeries make people look like straight up aliens.

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  • [–] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm ok with body shaming as long as the thing being shamed is something that they intentionally did to themselves.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    While you were correct the thing people forget with these types of comparisons is that they would not continue to look like the before images even if they didn't get any work done.

    A lot of these women are well past their 20s and while I don't think the result of their work is attractive however in the age of social media (or just regular media) it is better to look like this then to "look old" as a woman.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of these women are well past their 20s and while I don’t think the result of their work is attractive however in the age of social media (or just regular media) it is better to look like this then to “look old” as a woman.

    Many are in their 30s, some in their early 30s even. Most people have the first signs of aging come in their mid-late 30s, laugh lines, first few grey hairs, etc. It depends on the individual but ultimately most people will have minimal visual signs of age in their 30s. This isn't trying to hide aging, this is something else entirely

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago

    Those are some brave women. I would shit my pants each morning if I would see a monster like this in the mirror.

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    For maga, plastic surgery is virtue signaling. Since they have the money to spend on “looking their best” they do so in the most visible way since money is morality to these fucks.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Doesn't "have the money" for plastic surgery imply good surgery? All these people look like they got TEMU lips and Great Value noses.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You're silly. "Good plastic surgery" is the kind of surgery that makes you more 'pretty' without people noticing that it's actually fake. How are people supposed to notice that you got the money for plastic surgery if the surgery is so good that people wouldn't notice?

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    How are people supposed to notice that you got the money for plastic surgery if the surgery is so good that people wouldn’t notice?

    Somehow this reminds me of the Demons in Frieren the Slayer.

    Even though suppressing their mana output at rest would be tactically better, because it would allow surprising enemies in fights, they can't do that because they use the display of mana to signal status in the demon hierarchy.

    Sorry if that was cringe to bring up. I'm hoping at least some readers will be familiar and find the comparison funny.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    That's the look. The point isn't to get subtle beauty enhancement. The point is to look like you've had plastic surgery.

    It's tacky to me, but I'm not going to fault their culture. As long as it's being done with full knowledge and consent, and not under outside pressure.

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  • [+] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    They look like fuckin goblins. It must be on purpose because they all look like fucking goblins. Some of them look like goblin necromancers.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Is there anyone that finds this look attractive or is this all misguided attention seeking / mental illness?

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    I do wonder if maybe a combination of mental decline and reduced visual acuity associated with age has something to do with it. The features are exaggerated as if to create a caricature of attractiveness: large lips, exaggerated cheek bones, excessive eye outlining. If you can't see so well anymore those exaggerated features might reduce to attractiveness through a mental and visual haze.

    If that's the case, if you could build an AI that takes anything and applies a right-to-left filter on everything you'd see how MAGA leadership sees the rest of the world. Maybe that explains the lack of human empathy if everyone is reduced to featureless blobs.

    /s, mostly

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Trump. Donald Trump specifically finds this attractive. I also think he personally gets off on the fact that women would put themselves through significant and painful elective surgery just to try to look good for men generally, and especially when it's for him specifically.

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Is it just me, or was every single one of these women more attractive before surgery?

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    I think I figured out part of why the word "ghoulish" kept coming to mind.

    When the face is full of filler, the eyes become sunken in.

    Just like a ghoul from fallout.

    And then they all have small noses. And these too will sink in.

    So ghoul.

    The thing is, it's almost impossible to have that filler removed. Plus it has stretched the skin. So removing it would make their face look like how the skin looks in an area of extreme weight loss. That's kinda whatever on people who have lost weight/had babies , It is what it is.

    But This will really mess up the face. It's not natural.

    The alternative is to keep adding more filler until the face is 5x thicker and the eyes are so far sunk behind bags of filled flesh that they look black and demonic.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Plus the filler is absorbed by the body, but at different rates. So in a few years it's gonna be irregular and lumpy. Some people go to the extreme length of having glass microbeads mixed with the filler (this is illegal in the US) but those migrate around within the tissue. Once you start this shit, it's just a constant Death Becomes Her maintenance operation to keep it from looking worse.

    Or as they say in Ab Fab, "pretty soon you're a just visitor in your own face."

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Everytime i see maga face i think of escape from LA

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    We shouldn’t discriminate: both maga men and women have distorted views of their own appearance. Has to do with their psychology, I guess.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    in 200 years we'll be looking at this and be "how did they find this beautiful ?? (we didn't) No wonder they fucked up earth."

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The devolvement into MAGA degeneracy is so obvious

    You can see them turn ugly, just like their ugly politics

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Total commitment to the Cult at all costs, even heavy personal ones. They'll do anything for Dear Leader™️, even sabotage their own futures.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    They were ok, can't say they were supermodels but looked ok, however their transformation into a skinsuit is horrifying.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    No wonder Nikki Minaj fit right in.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Extreme gender affirming care.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The upper right one doesn't look bad, but she also somehow has transformed into Ivanka's sister.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    This is like in star wars when good people turn towards the dark side and their appearence turns into monsters.

    Not for Anakin though, he is special and needs to look good to sell tickets.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    They rather look like aliens than look old. That’s a sign of mental illness.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Great video from Life Take Two (ex-Mormon/MAGA woman) about this phenomenon and the reasons behind it. In short: it's misogyny.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    My partner recently started watching her videos and I saw this one. 100% accurate. She's incredibly self-reflective and really hits a lot of things as they really are. Genuine brilliance wasted by both the Mormons and MAGA because of misogyny.

    I grew up in what is now deep red Trump flag territory, and the District 1/12 level of "we're the hyper-visual freaks focused on image and money, now send me donations, you filthy MAGA monkey!" is severe. Those people rarely see how genuinely grotesque many of these freaks are because it's all podcasts and talk radio and Fox News, which blunts the extreme elements. Noem and Levitt might be the only two the average person would know, and they've only known their mutilated faces, not their real faces.

    If you went to a Wal-Mart in any rural town with a game called "ID the MAGA Star!" and gave $100 to anyone able to correctly identify the names of all 6 pre-multination faces, and take $1 per guess, you could go there with no cash on you and leave loaded. I would bet that you'd get lots of totally unironic pushback that Loomer is trans.

    I swear, even the porn industry seems less misogynistic than MAGA when it comes to pressure to change your body.

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