"In the future, nobody will care."

I wonder if he had that idea before or after Patrick Stewart was cast as Picard.

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[–] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (17 children)

I wonder if he had that idea before or after Patrick Stewart was cast as Picard.

After/during the casting process. Originally, Gene Roddenberry didn't want a bald actor to play Picard, becausr in his opinion there should be a cure to male pattern baldness in the future. Stewart was even asked to bring a hair piece for the audition. However, Roddenberry was talked out of it by basically everyone else with any responsibility in the casting process (partly because Stewart looked somewhat cursed with a hairpiece).

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Stewar[t] looked somewhat cursed with a hairpiece

    Here's what that may have looked like as used in flashback from s5e12 "Violations"

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'd blame that on the hairdresser. They didn't have to give him a fivehead.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They didn't have to give him a fivehead.

    BWAhahahahahah! Oh shit, I just choked on my coffee!

    Thanks for the hearty laugh.. gonna hafta remember this one!

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  • [–] 54 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The thing is, by this point in their timeline, hair loss isn't a stigma nor considered a deficiency.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago

    Exactly! There is no cure for a thing which is not an ailment. He chooses to have no hair. Probably a lot easier and faster in the sonic shower. And can be on the bridge during an early hour red alert without having bed head.

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  • [–] 45 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    In my head canon society had developed such that male pattern baldness was seen as natural and not anything that needed to be cured. But the Picard series sort of debunked that

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    this is correct and we can just pretend the Picard series doesn't exist

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Funny enough, I'm good friends with the woman who was the lead researcher of Proctor and Gambles' program for a hair growth product back in the 90's. Ultimately, P&G was forced to abandon the effort after many many years.

    My friend stated she could grow hair on a cue ball. The only issue was the cue ball wouldn't survive the process.

    Short story long... It is possible to cure male and female baldness. The only problem is the patient would not survive the toxic cocktail that growing hair requires.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    ...there's already a cure for this though? minoxidil, great for filling out beards

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Minoxidil has a very narrow efficacy.

    P&G's project was aimed primarily to cure baldness in.... Women and not men. Surprising I know, but back in those days baldness in women was viewed as a more lucrative target market. They were also going for much stronger and broader results than what Minoxidil generally provides in order to compete with it. Minoxidil was developed by Upjohn in the 50's.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    i do recall hearing something about the head-hair results not being as effective as beard-hair result, something about different hair follicle types? just pulling from memory/personal experience though, no studies or anything

    beard results do appear to be permanent, slightly less thick when you stop but long as you use it for a year or so it does seem to fill out a pube-beard permanently.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Picard's baldness is a choice, just like Geordi's visor.

    Edit: And Kovich's glasses

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    When Seven was first rescued, the Doctor talked about stimulating her hair folicals. He called a vicarious experience.

    So clearly there is a way to "cure ' it, if someone did want to.

    Not everyone cares about being bold. Plus he knows Guinan likes it.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    There's nothing wrong with being bald

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    aside from the others, here's Patrick Stewart talking about baldness and hairpieces : https://youtu.be/bqm_Iq8rFeg?t=93

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    "In the future, nobody will care"

    Rodenberry was already asked this question. That was his answer.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago*

    I wonder if he had that idea before or after Patrick Stewart was cast as Picard.

    Patrick Stewart showed up wearing his customary toupee. It looked so ridiculous that they asked him to lose it and just go with a bald character.

    EDIT:

    https://youtu.be/PTu1FX1rOFQ

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Star Trek in many ways is completely off the mark wrt to the levels of technology portrayed.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    https://youtu.be/zklIGXVdibo

    He he is playing Hamlet circa 1969. Looks like a wig to me, but what do I know?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I once watched a biography on him. It mentioned that he had lost most of his hair by his early 20s. Since he would have been 29 in 1969 he would have to be wearing a wig in the video.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I was trying to find a clip of him from the show "I, Claudius" where he played a duplicitous centurion.

    This one had funnier hair.

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