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[–] 199 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Across the country, 10 people have died in ICE custody since January.

I think at this point we can characterize it as killing. ICE is killing people.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Killing people in their death camps, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    While I hate what's happening in the US right now as much as the next guy, let's not over-inflate the language used. It doesn't help anybody.

    If we start calling what's currently there "ICE death camps" because 10 old people died across the whole country, people will get jaded, will start ignoring the cries for help as alarmist. And THEN the actual death camps will show up, but by that time nobody will be paying attention.

    Exactly as it happened with Gaza.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How many do you think have died in the El Salvadorean gulag

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    the complete silence about everyone else who was deported there is the scariest fact.

    the media just forgot about them, they latched on one person and the rest are forgotten. they will likely never see the lights of day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I can only imagine that they'll hand pick the most heartless people they can find to run the detention centers.

    Have we not heard multiple stories from people detained how all they get is a space-blanket and pretty much have to sleep on concrete?

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Jesus christ, if this is what's making it to the news, imagine what is being covered up.

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  • [–] 99 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Without process, kidnapped in the streets, courtrooms and homes to be killed in detention. How can you accept this from your own country? The USA needs a revolution

    Edit: I am very happy and would never consider suicide

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  • [+] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's really a very small consolation that one can now actually go "fucking told you so."

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    No, he didn’t just magically and coincidentally “die”.

    This was murder. We must never forget what is happening right now and we must never forgive any accomplice. Someday, they will be held accountable. Never forgive or forget the terror, slavery, torture, deprivation of human rights, and murder enacted by this administration and its accomplices.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    two possibilities, both likely (at the same time).

    a) Ice does not provide basic necessities to live, like food/water/restrooms/access to emergency healthcare... and people will die.

    b) there are so many people detained that it is statistically likely people will die of natural causes (you dont become immortal just because you're detained.

    most likely both of those options at the same time.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The sad thing is I don't think it will be the USA putting them to trial. It'll be other nations that are picking through the rubble or individual governments after the united states balkanizes. Maybe I'm too pessimistic about things but I just don't see a way we get out of this whole.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    The entire thing is so sad

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Republicans call him a criminal. Crossing the border has a criminal act, so that’s all they need for justification.

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  • skullfuck all the assholes who did this

    metaphorically, of course, in adherence to all of lemmy's various tos

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Kristi Noem is a Ku Klux Kunt.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Can the journalists please headline home as “American”, not leading off with a place he lived over half a century ago?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Was he one of the Cubans mad that his family lost their slaves and plantations? And voted for Trump?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Would that make it okay for ICE to abduct him without due process and kill him?

    Keep in mind you’re talking about someone who came to the US as a 15 year old child.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nobody deserves that.

    That said, cubans overwhelmingly support the old orange doofus.

    Disfruta lo votado.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Si no tuviera la ciudadanía, no podría haber votado.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Muchos cubanos apoyan al partió republicano por ser anti comunista, cuidados o no. Aún siendo cuidado es posible ser deportado. Ni sería novedad que le pase a un veterano. En un episodio de NPR había una historia de un señor que pensó que era ciudadano. Hasta se unió al ejército y fue a vietnam. Luego trabajo como patrulla fronteriza. Se le descubrió que su acta de nacimiento era falsa y fue deportado.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    If you only have a problem with it when it happens to the ‘wrong people’ then you have a lot in common with Trump voters 🤷‍♂️

    And how tf is someone who was getting deported voting in presidential elections? Only citizens can do that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I only dont have an issue when people who demanded something happens, has it happen to them.

    Am I sad if an arsonist burns in a fire they set? No. Was I said when the billionaire crusher crushed the billionaires? No.

    All examples of people getting what they demanded.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Except you have no evidence any of that is happening here. You know he was a Cuban immigrant who has been here since he was 15 and made up the rest.

    Why am I having to be in this thread explaining that collective guilt and blaming children for where they were born is deranged?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    He’s not a citizen. Couldn’t have voted for this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Hence, the "and".

    Did he support Trump prior to his arrest?

    Remember, a load of Cubans love Trump, because they think he will return thr family slaves and plantations to them....

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Remember? I’m not familiar with Cuban slavery in the last 100 years. Do you have a source? Just curious.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Cuba ended slavery before the US?

    We still have plenty of people alive in the US whose parents were literal slaves...

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