Is this in Minneapolis? If so, will the mayor order the police force to stop acting like they're allied with ICE? (Let's be honest, they mostly are I bet). At some point a city is going to need to force their police force to officially choose sides, or resign if they are unwilling.
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Nothing screams "I'm an enormous loser who must project my insecurity onto the world" like kicking over a candle at a dead person's memorial.
Train in de-escalading tactics I see
Piggy wants to throw his weight around by stepping up and then telling the other guy to back down.
It's a coward move meant to start a fight; he only did it because he has the State backing him up. It makes him look like the pathetic craven fascist in his heart. Try that without a badge and see what happens.
He's just a scared boy with a gun who needs to bully people to feel like a man.
ACAB, no matter what badge they wear.
No matter the badge, no matter the skin color, no matter the country. Forever and always ACAB
Edit for the person who deleted their comment:
The people that are upholding systemic oppression and arresting people for opposing genocide are bastards, sorry to tell you.
Imagine defending cops and complaining about concentration camps in the same comment. Wild.
You think the police are here to protect us? C'mon OP, here, in this thread, you're gonna try and spread kumbayah not-all-cops-are-bad police apologia?
The left need to align the police with their interest.
How do you propose they/we do that when the police have functionally been antithetical to the left's interests across most, if not all, of recorded history? It's not like this is an optics issue; state-sanctioned monopoly on physical violence is literally counter to the entire point of being "to the left".
These people don't want to hear about reality, they just want to complain while proposing no practical solutions, and call anyone a coward who doesn't express uncritical willingness to immediately resort to escalation.
The moment they get a figurehead, they'll tear him or her down, because they're allergic to any semblance of authority. They keep talking about a revolution, but they'll never organize effectively because they're allergic to the ideas of discipline and hierarchy.
I believe in leftist socioeconomic policy, but man is there an over-representation of imbeciles who seem to be dominating the narrative. It's no wonder the right-wing thinks we're all MLs. Any leftist who's not an ML is either afraid to speak up, or gets trashed whenever they do.
It's fucking hopeless, I fear. And then they get upset when we say our only hope is to vote in a lukewarm Dem. I'd love to see more progressive candidates winning, but the left shoots itself in the foot every time because they'd rather have reasons to complain than actually work on solving any problems.
I don't know what their long-term plans are. Anarchy? As if that would be any better for women and vulnerable minorities?
I honestly think it's a downstream effect of putin's hybrid war against the west. FSB trolls aren't only focussing on radicalizing right-wingers (cause that's what Qanon was, let's be honest). They've stoked both sides, deliberately promoting discord and escalation, and they've effectively created an unmendable rift straight down the middle of the body politic.
So yeah, they seed all this divisive and violent rhetoric, using bot farms to promote it. Then it catches on and like a virus propagates itself throughout the collective conscience. All of the sudden safe online spaces for wholesome debate are rare, and everyone's at each other's throats, and even people on the left can't seem to agree on a course of action because these provocateurs and accelerationists are dominating the narrative.
It fools half the left into following that narrative, and it fools the right-wing into viewing the entire left as unreasonable and violent. It's kind of mirrored on the other side too. Growing up, I remember not every republican/conservative was a bloodthirsty racist. Surprising, I know. But now so many of them have caught the maga mind virus, and all the sane ones if there are any left are invisible. There certainly are anti-maga republicans, but they've lost control of their party.
Reactionary, sensationalist, and dehumanizing rhetoric is just too easy for people to fall into. It must have some deep-seated appeal to the reptilian parts of our brains (the limbic system, that is), because it defies all reason and empathy.
And there are adversaries with decades of institutional knowledge in psyops (disinformation, propaganda, and radicalization) who have been patiently exploiting this vulnerability for years. It's scary to think how this will impact the long-term evolution of the human psyche...
So you're telling leftists to "align" themselves with police (the state)?
The police exist to protect capital. It is impossible for the left to align with their interests
Ok hold up, let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that the left try and make nice with cops of all people, in a post that you authored showing cops being absolutely reprehensible human beings? Like what are you even here for dude? I honestly do not understand. Why does the left need some protector anyways? Why would you advocate for that specifically, and not for the left to be their own protection?
Ok so it sounds like you are advocating for the left to be its own protection.
Remind me again why we need to be nice to police then?
What? Dawg that's what you're advocating for. Are you ok?
You think leftists can just join the police and fix everything from the inside? Have you tried? You think Republicans are more likely to do the job because not enough leftists apply, and not because the system selects specifically for conservative-minded people?
Leftists don't villify the job. Leftists villify the system that actively selects against them, educated people, and people with empathy, a system inherently rooted and founded upon racist principles.
The system cannot be fixed from within by infiltrating it with some lefty cops, and your suggestion to do so is laughably naive at best, and maliciously counterproductive at worst. The system needs to be rebuilt and retooled. And that's not going to happen just by being nice to cops, or by leftists becoming cops.
The only thing I'm getting here is that you think that police are the only/ultimate positions of authority, which is shedding some light on the rest of your "arguments".
Good luck infiltrating the cops my dude, I wish you the best and good luck. I'll be over here working on other, useful things.
No, I don't really want more paragraphs dude, it's getting exhausting trying to parse any points out of what's already there. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around thr fact that the person who posted this video of cops being terrible people would then advocate for leftists to befriend and become cops themselves, over advocating for institutional, systematic change.
And if you're implying that the left has no plan, I implore you to extricate yourself from the rock you're living under.
All the cops I've known, and I've known many, are the worst people you went to high school with. I know a cop that showed me a video of him kicking a handcuffed guy so hard that he shit his pants. Another cop I know used to clasp his hands around his butt when he would fart and then whirl around and smell it. ACAB.
If you are a "good" cop, then you would do everything you could to clean up your police force, and get rid of the bad ones.
But they don't. At best, they look the other way from abuse. That makes them complicit.
Because it isn't my actual JOB, that's why. That's their job, that they applied for, and we PAY them to do. Nobody is forcing them to be cops. How are we supposed to trust them to clean up crime in our city, when they can't even clean it up in their own workplace?
If someone in my house was an active criminal, I WOULD do something about it, but it's not up to me to do anything about anyone else. That's called vigilante justice, and it's illegal. We hire COPS to do that. Then they won't, because it's too dangerous.
Because we expect cops to do their jobs competently? Okay...
Why should I be doing the jobs that we pay cops to do? You're not making sense.
This is ridiculous. The argument was "ALL Cops Are Bad, even good ones, because they aren't cleaning up their own force," a reasonable position.
You have tried to morph it into "Because cops aren't doing their jobs, it falls to me to do their jobs for them, or I'M the bad person." And now I got to defend why I'm criticizing cops when I'm not willing to step up and do their jobs for them, a really dumb position I don't believe, that I'm not interested in defending, just because you tried to manipulate the conversation that way.
Stop moving the goalposts. Good cops are still bad because they allow bad cops to operate with impunity. The solution isn't to allow them to continue their corruption and abuse, and have citizens take over law enforcement duties as vigilantes, the proper solution is to rehabilitate the police force, and reconfigure it to follow the original mission of all law enforcement: to serve and protect.
That's the debate I wanted to have, and that's my position. You have no defensible position, so you have to reframe a new argument, which I'm not interested in having, especially with some who debates in bad faith.
Again, changing the subject. Just because it works like that with POLICE, does not mean it applies to all society. If there is trouble with a bad person in our neighborhood, we don't resolve it ourselves, we call the cops.
Why don't we do it ourselves? Because it is ILLEGAL, that's why. We don't handle criminals ourselves, we are CIVILIZED, and we hire professional law enforcement to handle our problems. It is now ILLEGAL to handle it ourselves.
Get it? I'm not bad because I don't handle crime myself. If I did, I would be the criminal. The point isn't to clean up society by breaking the law. The point is to demand that the law to do its job.
Your logic and Critical Thinking Skills need a lot of work.
He's just a scared boy with a gun who needs to bully people to feel like a man.
Also he's hoping that his aggressive attitude will distract people from thinking about his micropenis, and how he's never satisfied a woman, but that's her fault, he got his.
If kicking that candle into a pile of dry leaves happened to start a fire, then the police would've blame the protestors for rioting and used it to as justification further crack down on the community.
They just have police go plain clothes and then stir up shit to do that
Anytime this happens, they should vacate any conviction of property destruction/rioting/disorderly conduct and related charges. Why? Same reason as the 4th Amendment “fruit of the poisoned tree” doctrine.
And every law enforcement response to protest should be publicly examined via subpoena in this way.
Chunky Monkey is all tough in that get up with his mates. Do you think he'd do the same thing if he was in normal clothes and all alone?
Fuck pigs
Pigs are intelligent, emotional, and cognitively complex. They don't deserve to be dragged down to the same level as the pond scum with a badge that did this.
what are you, the British prime minister?
They're telling us they don't want peace and there aren't that many of them.
And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.
- Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts
You know how when you call the cops they don't come till 3 hours later? They can't possibly handle all of us, not even a tenth
How's this?
ICE is telling us they don’t want peace
and there aren’t that many of them.
ICE is better known for “other” thinking.
Should be open season now.
Who are those pigs? Names, we want names. Make their kids embarrassed to go to school, make their wives embarrassed to go to church.
I hope someone shoots that piece of shit.
ACAB just keeps getting more and more validated.
What a pathetic fat, fascist that hides behind a badge to push a guy.
First thing I noticed. How fat is that clown? Jesus christ
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