I do wonder if the 1080 Ti would be a better option for consumers than 3080 12GB if you don't need DLSS and Ray-tracing.

The 1080 Ti has 484.4 GB/s memory bandwidth versus 360.0 GB/s for the 3060. It seems to perform somewhat better (~10%) in games, although I am assuming this is without ray tracing:

I am assuming manufacturing costs should be less for the 1080 Ti, but maybe GDDR5X isn't manufactured anymore?

Node 1080 Ti: 16nm 3060: 8nm

Transistors 1080 Ti: 11.8 B 3060: 12 B

Or perhaps game devs can focus on optimizing to appeal to lower end pcs

A new age of hyper-optimisation would be so awesome.

No, just basic and regular optimization. There are plenty of talented devs with YouTube channels that have shown that most AAA games are horrendously optimized, and in some cases can see 2x or even 3x+ performance gains with proper optimization.

I don't know man. Maybe I just don't understand it but games like BF1 for the most part look just as good as games today.

BF1 hits the in-engine frame limiter with modern cards on 4K and maxed out settings.

Yet new games for the most part run like dog shit.

So even with old hardware creating great looking games should still be possible.

Plenty of indie games that dont need big beefy cards

I imagine this would affect PC-only or PC-first games. I think it's more likely that publishers will focus on releasing games for consoles rather than PC. I'm also wondering if this week drive more console sales in the future.

Just for 999.95, but you can wait for a cheaper release of RTX 2090!

I have an 8GB 3070 and it's doing just fine.

I mean, like most reviewers they test their games at ultra/very high to isolate the GPU performance. But realistically you shouldn't be expecting to run those settings at 1440p/4K for a budget card like this.

More 8GB cards sucks if that's what gets released, but it's not like you can't game at all without more VRAM. Just turn down your settings till a better deal comes along.

Hey my 4gb t600 runs doom eternal on high perfectlu