NVIDIA started to discontinue its GeForce RTX 3060 GPUs back in 2024. The original lineup, which was introduced back in 2021, is still the most popular gaming graphics card on Steam, and while the 4060 & 5060 are picking up the pace, it looks like NVIDIA might once again open up production lines for this GPU.

This indicates the extent to which the DRAM shortages have affected consumer GPUs. The GeForce RTX 5060 makes use of GDDR7 memory, and as DRAM costs rise, the RTX 5060 might not only be affected in terms of pricing but also in supply, since procuring the memory is also an issue due to poor supply. The 60-series product family is made for mass consumption, so NVIDIA will have to offer some alternative to its partners.

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[+] 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I would buy AMD, I really would, but for what I use GPUs for, 3D rendering on Blender (cycles), nvidia is must much faster for a card of the same price point due to optix raytracing acceleration.

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  • [+] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    No offence taken.

    My desision comes from two factors that play together.

    First I am relatively poor and if I save to painfully save money and give up on other things that are also important so I can buy a GPU I want to make sure that I pay as least as possible for the most performance, if it takes a day to render a small animation on an nvidia GPU, it will take two days to do the same on AMD at the same price point. Besides I want to try to do this professionally one day, if that is to happen I can't let my clients wait double, they will hire someone else.

    Also I use Linux, so trust me I would love to get an AMD instead and get proper drivers.

    The other factor is that I don't believe my purchases as single individual make any dent in the market whatsoever. I can't get it in my mind, I'm just one person, there are billions out there with way more money than me. The children get killed in Palestine and the data centres boil the earth no matter if I personality buy nvidia or buy from amazon or not. It's kinda of a paradox because if everyone thinks like me then collective action doesn't happen.

    It's kinda similar how I would be vegan if I had to kill the animals myself, but I don't believe that if I stop buying chicken that less chickens get raised and killed, the retailer orders 1000 chickens independently if I buy one or not.

    Edit: I know I sound like a terrible person, but I try to make conscious choices when the price is similar and most people just laugh when I mention it and say something in the mids of "lol who cares".

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Got a 9070XT from Microcenter for $580. Never going back to Nvidia unless there's MAJOR changes in the GPU market.

    That being said, depending on the price they resell the 3060 for, it might not be a terrible deal for budget builds possibly (but knowing Nvidia, it'll probably be overpriced).

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    [–] 44 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    I wonder if we'll see a shift towards graphical stagnation with upcoming game releases. With RAM and GPUs being so expensive, there will be a lot fewer customers that can afford the hardware to play upcoming, graphically-demanding games and so targeting that demographic is economically unwise.

    It sucks that this is the situation we find ourselves in, but I'm actually kind of interested in what will happen. A new age of hyper-optimisation would be so awesome.

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  • [–] 56 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Or perhaps game devs can focus on optimizing to appeal to lower end pcs

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    They really should anyway. The Switch showed almost a decade ago how popular the handheld form factor can be when powerful enough, and the Steam Deck has capitalized on that beautifully. At this point a significant component in my purchasing of games is looking for that “Steam Deck Verified.”

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'd be thrilled if devs shifted to optimizing like they did with early consoles. Figuring out creative workarounds to hardware limitations got us some truly fantastic games.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The fact that the original Super Mario Bros is 31kb of space is baffling. Getting Kirby's Adventure to run on the same hardware is pure technomancy.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Batman: Return of Joker is also an amazing feat of NES technomancy. Not a supremely great game, mind you, but what they were able to achieve graphically on the NES rivals some SNES games.

    Especially with big AAA companies, I think devs have gotten lazy with their optimization passes, because bigger cards means they can just continue cramming more into a game without bothering to budget for optimization.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    A new age of hyper-optimisation would be so awesome.

    No, just basic and regular optimization. There are plenty of talented devs with YouTube channels that have shown that most AAA games are horrendously optimized, and in some cases can see 2x or even 3x+ performance gains with proper optimization.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago*

    I don't know man. Maybe I just don't understand it but games like BF1 for the most part look just as good as games today.

    BF1 hits the in-engine frame limiter with modern cards on 4K and maxed out settings.

    Yet new games for the most part run like dog shit.

    So even with old hardware creating great looking games should still be possible.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    I imagine this would affect PC-only or PC-first games. I think it's more likely that publishers will focus on releasing games for consoles rather than PC. I'm also wondering if this week drive more console sales in the future.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    My Voodoo cards aren't appreciating in value bcs they are increasingly collectors items, it's bcs the mean market GPU performance is regressing ...

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    At an appropriately discounted price right?

    Right?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Nvidia preparing sell sloppy seconds to consumers

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    [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago

    I am really glad I bought a 3080 back in late 2020. It looks like I will be using for a few more years. Thankfully I am not really GPU bound in gaming (I play mostly strategy games) or my encoding/video upscaling hobby (all done on CPU for best possible quality to size ratio).

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    There's no detail on whether both the 12 GB / 8 GB models or one of those will be produced

    If it is the 8GB model, just keep what you have and don't buy it. Even for 1080p gaming, 8GB just doesn't cut it anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I mean, like most reviewers they test their games at ultra/very high to isolate the GPU performance. But realistically you shouldn't be expecting to run those settings at 1440p/4K for a budget card like this.

    More 8GB cards sucks if that's what gets released, but it's not like you can't game at all without more VRAM. Just turn down your settings till a better deal comes along.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    As long as the price is right, this could be good. Maybe cheaper than the RTX 5050?

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    [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Bring back 1080 while you're at it

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    I do wonder if the 1080 Ti would be a better option for consumers than 3080 12GB if you don't need DLSS and Ray-tracing.

    The 1080 Ti has 484.4 GB/s memory bandwidth versus 360.0 GB/s for the 3060. It seems to perform somewhat better (~10%) in games, although I am assuming this is without ray tracing:

    I am assuming manufacturing costs should be less for the 1080 Ti, but maybe GDDR5X isn't manufactured anymore?

    Node 1080 Ti: 16nm 3060: 8nm

    Transistors 1080 Ti: 11.8 B 3060: 12 B

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