yup. all kinds of people in this thread equating "encountering a bear" to "being mauled by a bear"

clearly they haven't met a moose

but yeah, animals mostly just want to be left alone. usually it is pretty easy to do that when you come across one

Yeah, a bear lives in the fucking woods. That's his house, and presumably if you're not fucking with the bear, the bear most likely won't fuck with you.

But another person? With unclear intentions for being in the woods? Not everyone is out to get you, but it's a higher risk than a damn bear. Especially if you're a woman, by yourself

inverted people

I hate it when my Uber driver shows up with their skin on the inside and bones on the outside.

inverted people

Yeah, I miss when I didn't know what it really meant. My imagined world was so wholesome

It overall reminded me why I fucking hate social media in general.

Huh, must have changed a bit. When I came across it years ago it seemed like a reasonably healthy response for an incel - stop worrying about women and work on yourself.

Back when I first heard about it I thought it was really nice that there was a group of men supporting each other in rejecting the idea that heterosexual monogamy was the only path to a fulfilled life. Life is full of disappointment.

I've seen this one before! In The Little Rascals!

Na, never has been different. Look up any thread that even mildly implies men could do something wrong and it's only hate from there on.

I wonder why tough. Lemmy is fairly left, pro LGBTQI+, etc. but in regards to anything mildly feminist you get... well, this kind of lovely thread.

the root of most hate, and i mean like… DEEP hate isn't any active emotion towards another person but instead an unwillingness to audit our blindspots. what i see a lot on lemmy is people who are steeped in Internet Culture who assume that they are progressive, forward thinking, and have it all figured out. i try to come into discussions with the mindset that i'm guilty of this, too, and that i'm a work in progress.

there's also a deep seated fundamental misunderstanding of what feminism is here that matches very directly to what you would get used to seeing on reddit. it's kind of funny, because it demonstrates that the Read Theory bros theories don't consider critical marxist analysis of gender to be part of the theory that needs to be read, which is frustrating, bordering on upsetting. anytime i recommend someone read bell hooks' Feminism is For Everyone i get antsy about how long in will take for someone who's let conservatives tell them what feminism is to tell me that's a propaganda rag and that bell hooks doesn't know what feminism is

it's like solidarity amongst the lower classes only matters up until the point when you have to start working against the oldest arbitrary division that's been used to keep us from organizing

Unfortunately no, it’s been like this since I made my first account over 2 yrs ago. It hasn’t really gotten worse but it’s also not getting better. It’s basically why the AFAB cis population of the platform is tiny. Why would women stick around when this stuff is what every post about women turns into..

I hope it may be a bit of confirmation bias. Most of the people who are not misogynists just move on after reading the meme and don't comment. I was about to do the same until I saw this comment thread, and now I'm in the gutter of other comment threads here trying to fight the good fight 🤣.

Maybe it just wasn’t apparent? But flares up in posts like this.

Still. It’s literally mgtow ChatGPT slop, with the caption “hey, you said you chose the bear!” I’m floored/ashamed the response is anything but “wow, Rafael is a jerk.”

It comes and goes depending on if women are speaking up about stuff or if the misogynistic men can forget we're here

My first real experience on Lemmy, was a thread about men overrunning a women's tech job fair. And Lemmites seeing nothing wrong with it.

It kinda set the tone.

It is all the LLM bots that are configured to work on Reddit.

Still though. Even assuming total ignorance, where’s the respect?

Rafael is an abusive ass. It’s clear cut.

Hence I don’t get the responses below… Are others guys really so afraid of the bear meme “perpetuating a toxic message to other women” or whatever that their respect for other human beings goes out the window? Like it’s too dangerous an idea? I’m pretty socially isolated, yet that sounds like fascism to me.

absolutely no experience talking with women

Also, most people have no experience with wildlife and think all bears are murder machines.

The vast majority of bear encounters outside of very specific locations are with black bears. In which case you just end up momentarily scaring each other and then they run away.

Genuinely men don't see some of the issues women deal with. Like, all of my female friends have stories about dudes being creeps, but my male friends mostly don't have stories like that. It's extremely easy to be out of touch with even your close friends on this matter.

The threat posed by a bear is obvious.