Unmask ICE for National Security!

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[–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's simple.

If law enforcement is anonymous, then anyone anonymous is law enforcement.

I've had security discussions with people who should know better about similar stuff. When someone calls me, I have no idea if it's you. Caller ID is insanely easy to spoof. I've had banks call me and demand I identify myself to them; how about you prove to me that you are who you say you are before I start handing out my personal information?

Interestingly, they don't seem to get it. They just go "I'm from xyz bank" yeah.... You say that... How do I know you're not lying? "I'm not lying, I'm calling from xyz bank"

Dur. We go around a few times with this before they give up.

I usually call my bank using the number on the back of my card, then ask that person if I was called and why.

Now you want me to take it.... On faith, and the word of the person who is concealing their identity, that they are who they say they are?

This is the entire fucking reason that LEOs carry badges. It's so that the public can verify that they're talking to someone who actually is who they say they are.

Anything less is just asking for people to impersonate a LEO or ICE agent in this case.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's piss poor performance from the bank. They obviously need a security audit.

    My bank will sometimes call me if they want something, but it's always just a voice message telling me to call the number on my card. They don't even provide the number on the phone message, just to get the idea into people's heads that they don't provide phone numbers on the message so if a number starts being provided on the call, it's immediately suspicious.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I told them as much. I spoke to a manager about it once on a call and I'm like, how the hell do I know you're actually the bank? You've given me nothing. Then you're asking for my uniquely identifying personal information via a voice prompt. Literally anyone could spoof all of this and you're training your clients to just hand over the information when asked, not even by a person, but by a robocall.

    Yeah, I got another a few months later, same shit.

    I feel bad for the customers of that bank. They're not my primary bank so I couldn't give a shit. I'm also security focused enough to know better.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago
    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, you don't have to make up a theoretical terrorist cell who is invading. That's just I.C.E. themselves, they are terrorists.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Oh for sure. This is really for MAGA. Figured if I post it here we could all do our part sharing on platforms they may use.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    You seem to be missing one major piece of information: They don't care.

    The more conservative someone is, the more selfish they are and less empathy they have. Most MAGAs are so far up their own ass that if you told them this, they'd roll their eyes and laugh at you. Because in their mind, nothing bad can happen to them. And if something like this did happened, they'd instantly start screaming about a false flag and want to arrest all democrats. You can't explain to them that they're wrong, or the potential dangers of their actions, because they 100% will not believe you. They only understand actions or mockery.

    TL;DR: You're basically trying to convince Narcissus that he's not that good looking.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Terrorism? .... someone can just rob a bank and get away with it

    The local news would post a picture asking people if they saw someone dressed up like ICE

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    There were rumors that the British SAS would use female burqas as disguises when operating in the Middle East.

    Now every terrorist, criminal, rapist, pedophile, just needs a made at home ICE outfit to do the same in America.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    lol. I hate to break it to you Americans, but foreign terrorists are sitting back and laughing their asses off as you guys destroy your country without having to blow themselves up.

    And MAGA would say, "see, no Middle Eastern terror attacks thanks to Trump"! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The left is fully aware that the only real foreign attacks on the US are social media destabilization campaigns. We need the right on our side to unmask ICE, and this could be our angle.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The right is basically chuds, facebook boomers, self proclaimed entrepreneurs and "economic experts". They have no interest in understanding even the most basic of social relations that they themselves exist within let alone helping the evil left take down their own idealogical para military force. We are kinda veering into re education camp and gulag territory now, at least for many of the most propagandized people. These people are rabid thanks to the media pumped 247 into their homes, cars, phones. They want someone to pay for their suffering as long is its not anyone they know. Until their white neighbors start getting plucked by ICE....i dunno americans and people in general just avoid ontological shock at all costs and the intelligence operatives, and corporate consumerism really fucked american consciousness over the last few decades.

    That being said, i do agree with your assessment on foreign bots. Most of the real ridiculous and divisive political content i come across is simply bots. And lots of inane one liners from rando nothing accounts.

    It seems some of my more maga neighbors have piped down recently tho. I still think their loyalists, sunk cost fallacy, and they def still have fox news on 247...i guess they just really like election season 😭 they have moved on to "god will protect us" yap, possibly guilty conscience but they have a massive distrust of "the left"...although they seem to like me personally which just highlights the tragedy really.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The foreign “terrorists” are sitting on gamer chairs in front of computers shitposting and sowing discord on social media, that way they make people angry about cultural issues and not class issues.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Gosh guess an American terrorist for example could do that as well

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sadly, I believe nothing will happen until a bunch of masked thugs in unmarked vehicles kidnaps, say, very Mexican illegal sounding Rafael Cruz and trafficks him to, say, Burkina Faso, because country of origin or nationality doesn't even matter anymore...

    And even then the message would probably not get through, and would be waved off with "but that's different!" :(

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Someone pretended to be ice in PA and robbed a store

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The trump regime WANTS to sew this kind of chaos.

    This is all part of the plan.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is also how they do a false flag attack to pull us into a forever war

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This narrative is frighteningly everywhere

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What if our greatest ally attacks Iran first then realizes it's not like shooting women and starving children... and they hit back? Hard?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    If this happens it will be blamed on the left/antifa allowing it to happen or helping in some way.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    How interconnected are ice and police?

    Wouldnt it be beneficial when you call the police an all masked robbers, bandits, kidnappers, cars and aggressors?

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not surprising. Also, aren't there a bunch of Cuban-Americans in Florida? Every day must be a field day for these assholes.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Yup. Miami has a Little Havana. The café con leche and el sándwich Cubano there are untouchable.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    100% MAGA can probably see eye to eye with the left on this expect the left isn't really making much effort to do that. This post is great. There's so much great content and examples of the abuse here. But the left's job right now is to amplify it. But it's not really happening.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Posts about lack of message amplification on a post that is amplifying the message.

    Cool.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Makes sense that a single post on Lemmy is what you'd consider amplification

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    As opposed to what? A single post on Reddit? Xitter? Blusky? Facebook?

    How do you know that the OP, and everyone else on this thread didn't reshare to those places?

    What exactly qualifies as amplification to you? How high of a bar do we need to pass to be good enough for you, your Highness.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Until my grandmother knows. Go outside and see what people are saying. Almost all are right wing views spread by engagement online. There's a guy on a bridge I pass everyday who still puts banners on it for NWO and COVID. If something is stupid but it works while something smart isn't working then we should figure out way. Calling everyone dumb isn't working out for leftist like that thought it would.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Your grandma knowing is an outcome. After a long campaign of amplification, that outcome is entirely possible.

    I'm just saying... You're shitting on the post for not being amplifying enough to inform your grandma; which is a ridiculous expectation to have.

    Amplification is still amplification. Whether it lives up to your impossible standards or not.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    MAGA idiots would just say that's the price of JUSTICE (ie hurting innocent people for being the wrong color)

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    If "ice agents" shot up a peaceful demonstration, them it could trigger a civil war. They'd still have their maga apologists however.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They wouldn't even need to shave their beards with that kind of face hiding

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Can we not do the Iraq era scary brown people bullshit?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Stop blowing the spot up. Pun intended.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    This is the stupidest thing I've read today -- and I just came from Reddit.

    Not talking about something isn't going to prevent it from happening.

    They're already building a police state and it's happening in front of your eyes. Pretending not to notice is exactly what they want.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    But the other bad guys have hurt us. Fuck ice, at best i think everyone of those pigs should be facing Nuremberg like trials. But let's ignore one group of terrorists just because they are Islamic.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Don't give the Mossad any ideas!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Good narrative to enact Marshall Law and end fair elections... it's like this has been a game plan the whole time. We've already seen this brown people are bad bullshit once with Republicans so they could start that 20+ year war in Iraq.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Oh look, another account posting an image to create a narrative in political memes. Totally not the works of companies like Cambridge Analytica. WTF is wrong with Lemmy today!

    So the story is that Iran, who make gajazillions from oil exports, are going to send a militant to kill a few people for the sake of well, nothing. Also, aeroplane fuel is hot enough to melt steel.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I didn’t post it to convince sane people that Iranian sleeper cells are going to pose as ICE. I posted it to share with other competent people on the left who are aware this nonsense may convince MAGA that the ICE gestapo’s anonymity is a liability. They’re the ones who actually believe the Bush/Trump fearmongering.

    And it’s spelled “steel.”

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    may convince MAGA that the ICE gestapo's anonymity is a liability

    lol

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You underestimate the power of Facebook memes with that crowd

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don’t touch Meta. I was hoping to share it with enough people here that we can spread it on more MAGA heavy platforms. I’m sorry the point of this was lost on you, but many others see value in the idea according to the other comments. I can assure you, had I primarily received a response of people thinking I’m fearmongering, I’d have already deleted it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, you must have the courage of your convictions. Leave your hot takes up, even if they are trash and embarrass you later. We must all learn.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    If I were actually convincing people that Iranian-Americans were a threat, I’d take it down. More Islamophobia is the last thing the world needs right now. I could care less about being embarrassed. Lol

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    The same point was posted before the "ceasefire" to do exactly what you're doing now. If you want MAGA to 'realise' go post the shit wherever those people go. This narrative was posted exactly to manipulate lemmy audiences who already have a hatred towards ICE.

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