I've been seeing this story pop up here and there and wanted to see what everybody was so upset about.

Luckily, TurningPointOU posted screenshots. The transcripts are below and I've rehosted the screenshots on Catbox.

What grade would you have given?

The assignment(screenshot) You must write a 650 words (body of text), double-spaced reaction paper demonstrating that you read the assigned article, and includes a thoughtful reaction to the material presented in the article. Points will be deducted when papers are deficient in any of these areas. I will deduct 10 points if your paper is between 620 and 649 words, and I will not give credit for papers under 620 words. Papers not turned in by the deadline will not receive credit.

​Please remember that your reaction paper should not be a summary, but rather a thoughtful discussion of some aspect of the article. Possible approaches to reaction papers include:

  1. A discussion of why you feel the topic is important and worthy of study (or not)
  2. ​An application of the study or results to your own experiences

(screenshot) There are other possibilities as well. The best reaction papers illustrate that students have read the assigned materials and engaged in critical thinking about some aspect of the article.

​Formatting requirements: 12-point Times New Roman or Calibri font, one-inch margins on all sides.

​GRADING: Reaction papers are graded on a 25-point scale, and are evaluated based on the following:

  1. ​Does the paper show a clear tie-in to the assigned article? (10 points)
  2. ​Does the paper present a thoughtful reaction or response to the article, rather than a summary? (10 points)
  3. Is the paper clearly written? (5 points)

Samantha's paper(screenshot) This article was very thought provoking and caused me to thoroughly evaluate the idea of gender and the role it plays in our society. The article discussed peers using teasing as a way to enforce gender norms. I do not necessarily see this as a problem. God made male and female and made us differently from each other on purpose and for a purpose. God is very intentional with what He makes, and I believe trying to change that would only do more harm. Gender roles and tendencies should not be considered “stereotypes”. Women naturally want to do womanly things because God created us with those womanly desires in our hearts. The same goes for men. God created men in the image of His courage and strength, and He created women in the image of His beauty. He intentionally created women differently than men and we should live our lives with that in mind.

(screenshot) It is frustrating to me when I read articles like this and discussion posts from my classmates of so many people trying to conform to the same mundane opinion, so they do not step on people’s toes. I think that is a cowardly and insincere way to live. It is important to use the freedom of speech we have been given in this country, and I personally believe that eliminating gender in our society would be detrimental, as it pulls us farther from God’s original plan for humans. It is perfectly normal for kids to follow gender “stereotypes” because that is how God made us. The reason so many girls want to feel womanly and care for others in a motherly way is not because they feel pressured to fit into social norms. It is because God created and chose them to reflect His beauty and His compassion in that way. In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to be alone, so He

(screenshot) created a helper for man (which is a woman). Many people assume the word “helper” in this context to be condescending and offensive to women. However, the original word in Hebrew is “ezer kenegdo” and that directly translates to “helper equal to”. Additionally, God describes Himself in the Bible using “ezer kenegdo”, or “helper”, and He describes His Holy Spirit as our Helper as well. This shows the importance God places on the role of the helper (women’s roles). God does not view women as less significant than men. He created us with such intentionally and care and He made women in his image of being a helper, and in the image of His beauty. If leaning into that role means I am “following gender stereotypes” then I am happy to be following a stereotype that aligns with the gifts and abilities God gave me as a woman.

(screenshot) ​I do not think men and women are pressured to be more masculine or feminine. I strongly disagree with the idea from the article that encouraging acceptance of diverse gender expressions could improve students’ confidence. Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be is demonic and severely harms American youth. I do not want kids to be teased or bullied in school. However, pushing the lie that everyone has their own truth and everyone can do whatever they want and be whoever they want is not biblical whatsoever. The Bible says that our lives are not our own but that our lives and bodies belong to the Lord for His glory. I live my life based on this truth and firmly believe that there would be less gender issues and insecurities in children if they were raised knowing that they do not belong to themselves, but they belong to the Lord.

Trans professor's comments(screenshot) ​Mel Curth (She/They)

November 16, 2025 at 2:04 PM

​Please note that I am not deducting points because you have certain beliefs, but instead I am deducting point for you posting a reaction paper that does not answer the questions for this assignment, contradicts itself, heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, and is at times offensive. While you are entitled to your own personal beliefs, there is an appropriate time or place to implement them in your reflections. I encourage all students to question or challenge the course material with other empirical findings or testable hypotheses, but using your own personal beliefs to argue against the findings of not only this article, but the findings of countless articles across psychology, biology, sociology, etc. is not best practice. You argue that abiding by normative gender roles is beneficial (it is perfectly fine to believe this), but to then say that everyone should act

(screenshot) the same, while also saying that people aren't pressured into gendered expectations is contradictory, especially since your arguments reflect a religious pressure to act in gender-stereotypical ways. You can say that strict gender norms don't create gender stereotypes, but that isn't true by definition of what a stereotype is. Please note that acknowledging gender stereotypes does not immediately denote a negative connotation, a nuance this article discusses. Additionally, to call an entire group of people "demonic" is highly offensive, especially a minoritized population. You are entitled to your own beliefs, but this isn't a vague narrative of "society pushes lies," but instead the result of countless years developing psychological and scientific evidence for these claims and directly interacting with the communities involved. You may personally disagree with this, but that

(screenshot) doesn't change the fact that every major psychological, medical, pediatric, and psychiatric association in the United States acknowledges that, biologically and psychologically, sex and gender is neither binary nor fixed. I implore you apply some more perspective and empathy in your work. If you personally disagree with the findings, then by all means share your criticisms, but make sure to do so in a way that is appropriate and using the methodology of empirical psychology, as aligned with the learning goals in this class. If you have any additional questions or concerns about this or would like some additional educational resources, I would be happy to discuss this further and provide you with them.

Additional professor's comments

(screenshot) Megan Waldron (She/Her/Hers)

November 16, 2025 at 3:09 PM

Samantha, I am the other instructor for this course, and I have also taken the time to read your paper. I concur with Mel on the grade you received. This paper should not be considered as a completion of the assignment. Everyone has different ways in which they see the world, but in an academic course such as this you are being asked to support your ideas with empirical evidence and higher-level reasoning. I find it concerning that you state at the beginning of your paper that you do not think bullying (“teasing”) is a bad thing. In addition, your paper directly and harshly criticizes your peers and their opinions, which are just as valuable as yours. Disagreeing with others is fine, but there is a respectful way to go about it. That goes for discussion posts as well as reaction papers. Please employ more thoughtfulness in your future assignments.

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[–] 293 points 10 months ago (22 children)

I'm really impressed by the grader's response. They didn't just fail her for not doing the assignment, but broke down why and how her rhetoric is flawed. The fact the school couldn't stand behind this clear and concise feedback just means that Oklahoma doesn't really care about the quality of the work done at their school.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I mean it is Oklahoma, we couldn't possibly expect more of them... :/

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago* (7 children)

    I’m really impressed by the grader’s response.

    Are you impressed they mentioned a number of reasons not in the assignment criteria or that the assignment is a called a reaction paper? I was skeptical about the student's grievance until the assignment statement caught my attention.

    The criteria for a reaction could have mentioned scientifically rigorous reasoning drawn on empirical research as the professor stated in their response. Instead, they were astonishingly lax: a clear reaction of some required length demonstrating they had read & thought about the article. Was the professor's expectation stated elsewhere, perhaps in the syllabus?

    I don't want to agree with MAGA student, but then I see this joke of assignment specification & have to wonder.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They called out multiple reasons why their response didn't rise to the standards of an empirical analysis. Making up your own philosophical reasoning (that isn't even consistent within the paper submitted) for a sociological analysis means that the paper contributed nothing to the topic at hand.

    For a college level course, you shouldn't need to explicitly state that a mythos can't be used as empirical evidence.

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  • [+] -11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    philosophical reasoning

    Dogmatic, ideological junk isn't philosophical. It is opinion & reaction.

    means that the paper contributed nothing to the topic at hand

    empirical evidence

    Again, where does the assignment say to do that?

    As written, it merely demands a clear "reaction" showing they read the linked article & thought about it. Where's the scientific rigor in that?

    If the professor had wanted scientific rigor, then it wouldn't have been hard to plainly write that like a grownass professional would be expected to do. It seems you're faulting students for following soft instructions exactly as written.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    it merely demands a clear "reaction" showing they read the linked article & thought about it.

    The student's essay does neither of these things. The essay shows the student read the title of the article, not the article itself. I realize those as are the type of reactions we're used to seeing on Lemmy, but a reaction showing they read the article would mention points directly from the article instead of just the general theme of "Trans people existing".

    Regurgitating dogmatic talking points does not demonstrate that the student "thought about it". It reads like the student read the title, maybe the first couple of lines, then shut off their brain and said "trans bad because others tell me trans bad".

    Again, I realize it's very common to see replies from people that did not read or think about an article so this seems normal, but a collage level course is going to have higher standards than social media.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    scientifically rigorous reasoning drawn on empirical research

    It's a psychology class. This doesn't need to be stated.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Asking (in unusual, soft language) for a thoughtful "reaction" isn't unexpected for a science class?

    Why shouldn't an assignment that already departs from common expectations for a science class need it stated which expectations still apply?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    They also didn't clarify that the assignment should be organized into sentences considering of nouns and verbs and be understandable by an English speaker. It did not clarify that the due date should be understood through the lense of a conventional calendar.

    There's some table stakes expectations that you don't need to explicitly state over and over again.

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  • [+] -17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    In what sense did she not do the assignment? Which aspects of the grading rubric do you think she failed at? Her rhetoric may be flawed, but that wasn't part of the assignment. You could argue that flawed rhetoric is bad writing, but that's only 5 points of the assignment out of a total of 25.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Well, the TA does a pretty good job explaning where it is lacking.

    I don't think this would be acceptable in a theological course because it is hot garbage, let alone a sociology(?) course.

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  • [+] -11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Well, the TA does a pretty good job explaning where it is lacking.

    Again though: Which aspects of the grading rubric do you think she failed at? The TA talks about things that aren't on the grading rubric, or if they are they fall under "bad writing" which is only worth 5 points.

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  • [–] 93 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    That professor should sue TPUSA for that headline. The reasons the essay got a zero are available, so the headline saying it was because she quoted the Bible is a blatant lie.

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    No academic sources

    Use of first person throughout

    Academic writing conventions not present

    More a reflection than reaction

    Sorry but unless this is a foundation student they're getting a 35%.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    The irony is, if she had gotten a 35% that would have been the end of it. This whole thing blew up because she got a 0. That's why I feel like 0's should never be given on an assignment unless literally nothing was turned in. A 0 comes off as personal; even in cases like this where the person absolutely deserves to fail, it casts doubt on the impartiality of the grader.

    But giving a 35%? Well that's different. That's acknowledging the person attempted the assignment, they just did a pathetically shit job at it. In some ways, it's more humiliating than a 0, because the grader at least tried to give you some credit, but is still highlighting how fucking stupid you are.

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  • [+] 33 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I think that is all correct, but still might find some way to rationalize up to a non zero final grade, just because of the extreme optics while something like a 3/25 is for all intents and purposes just as bad but just "looks" better.

    But frankly the students intent from the second of reading the assignment was likely to leverage the assignment to cry woke and go to Internet no matter what.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    I got a zero on a paper my freshman year of college, for not citing sources in my writing. I learned from that mistake and did better for the rest of my academic career.

    She's a junior, she should know that by now.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I'm a very generous marker, generally I look for any merit and credit where I can within the scheme.

    A 0 is a very strong statement saying "you produced nothing of value", and it's very very rare to hand out. In the case of a deduction, normally you tell them their grade pre-penalty to at least signal what was worthwhile with the aim of helping the student grow.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The prompt specifically requested a personal reaction.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    A personal reaction in an academic style is analytic in nature and rarely autobiographical. It links the content to the literature shaping one's views.

    The brief also specified it as critical, which at undergrad levels means exploring literature views and synthesizing rather than just vomiting a stream of consciousness unrelated to the course content.

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  • [–] 72 points 10 months ago

    This paper was terrible. It’s full of sentence fragments, run‑ons, and generally inconsistent grammar and lots of repetition and weak structure. It relies almost entirely on vague Bible references without citing specific passages or any psychological research, despite making claims about youth mental health and gender. And besides the fact it doesn’t follow the assignment at all, it’s just horribly written.

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  • [–] 70 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    How does this pass for a uni level essay? Not to belabour the point but this is a final grade assignment for a social and developmental psychology course and the best she could do is quote the bible (honestly could have given her some points for the "ezer kenegdo" insight and received less heat) but stating personal opinions as fact was a big wtf - I mean this reads like a primary school level submission.

    like imagine this was like an astronomy class and the student said "believing the earth rotates around the sun is demonic as Chronicles 16:30 clearly states the world cannot be moved"

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  • [–] 127 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    She posted a rant she probably wrote 5 minutes before the deadline and expected to be praised for it. How very conservative. The biblical historiography she dabbled in doesn't even come close to the topic at hand and is the closest she got to making an academic point. I award you no points and may God have mercy on you all.

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  • [–] 86 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    From what I heard the mother of this student is a known conservative influencer/frivolous litigant. It is very likely that she was put up to this so that it could be made into a national story, the school could be sued, and they could get rid of a trans professor to boot.

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  • [–] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i don't think she was put up to it but used her mothers influence to retaliate against the educators

    she is just following in her mother's shadow

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Considering that a poor grade would just result in re-taking the class next semester, foul play would probably be worth the cost of those credit-hours.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's a twenty-five point short essay that really only asks the student to show that they read and understood the article. I'd be surprised if this assignment was more than about 2% of the final grade.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It's very clearly bait, down to the fact it landed EXACTLY in the middle of the 40% grade reduction word count.

    Realistically, the graders should have seen it coming, and had better prepared to defend the grade.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Her rhetoric aside, the paper reads like it was written at the middle school level. The sentence structure is terrible, ideas are not exactly the most coherent, and the bulk of the thought process flows like a squirrel having an anuerism. Like yeah, have your opinions, but present them in a way that at least fakes a college-level analysis, not something that you'd post on your Facebook wall.

    Edit: spelling is hard

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    He[sic] rhetoric aside, the paper reads like it was written at the middle school level. The entence[sic] structure is...

    um.

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  • [–] 58 points 10 months ago

    I don't think that paper would deserve a passing grade in a theology class that was specifically asking for this sort of opinion. It was written very poorly, failed to properly cite anything, and wasn't even internally consistent.

    There's no scenario, academically, that this paper deserved good marks.

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  • [–] 104 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    Getting a professor fired for having your essay flunked for quoting the bible in a science essay. We've been too tolerant on christian dogmas.

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    She didn't even quote the Bible, just asserted that her interpretation is the right one without mentioning a single verse.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    She doesn't need to quote the bible, these people don't need to correctly interpret anything, just use it as an argument they can twist to spread their backwards ideas. And whe have been allowing this.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    As a Christian all I know is that Jesus embraced the prosecuted, he protected whores, lepers and brought together confronted tribes. Seems that some forget "let he who is free of sin cast the first stone"

    So Jesus wouldn't condemn the gay, the trans or anyone else, even if they live in sin (which we all do!) he would just teach them without blaming them from pretty much every issue in the world right now.

    It's obvious they are just confronting one another. Men vs Women, Hetero vs Homosexual, poor vs less poor, north vs south, east vs west, first world vs third world, while they bleed all of us and it just works.

    There are so many warnings in the Bible with what's happening in USA right now, false teachers specially.

    And I am far from a good Christian too, it's kinda difficult to be.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    If there is something we have learned this last decade is: The christo-fascist don't need to quote the bible to use as an instrument of hate. They can interpret the bible however they want; Use religious doctrine as a political argument with this free interpretation and use they monetary power to infiltrate government. I am not against people having their belifes. I am against these beliefs infiltrating education and politics.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    A Christian dogma is to not prosecute other people.

    God didn't made women "beauty" (like she says) because God is beauty.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think the Issue is that christian dogma is being used widely to persecute people, and infiltrate circles of power. Civilized countries have secular government and education for a reason!

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    The issue is pretty much greed. There are certain elements of humanity that are so greedy (hungry for power, for money) that they cope every single religion, ideology and turn them to satisfy their own need.

    Any belief is a door for someone else to exploit.

    Even as a species we are pure uncontrolled greed, maybe because of who we are led by, maybe because that's how we are as a group.

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  • [–] 51 points 10 months ago*

    Let’s be real…the MAGA fascists just saw “transgender” and that was all they needed to hear. The next words could have been “saved a baby from a fire”, and they would have wanted them fired.

    PS…that subject of this article looks like this guy Allen I grew up with.

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  • [–] 45 points 10 months ago

    Oh, hun. You didn’t even get your Bible topics correct. If you had turned this in at the most hateful, ignorant, backwards, antichrist church in Texas as a Sunday School assignment it still would have been a zero point paper. What was that quote at the end of Billy Madison?

    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    That applies to this paper.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago

    This is why graduate student and teaching assistant unions exist. I'd dare this student to contest a zero on a paper that is flatout plagiarism.

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  • [–] [S] 36 points 10 months ago

    Honestly, posting all of this on Xitter looks like an own-goal by Turning Point, but you can tell they don't see it that way.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago

    Conservatives have no shame anymore, the biggest loser became president and all the other idiot losers saw they're opportunity to fail/grift upwards.

    The Riley Gains effect = you can literally be a loser but claim you were oppressed and get attention, adulation, and money from all the other losers.

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Iirc, she didn't even quote/cite the Bible

    Edit: okay, she quoted it loosely. But didn't even give the reference- I put more effort into arguing with people on Lemmy!

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Loosely, because that's probably all the familiarity she has with it.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think it was about quoting bible as much as it was about not answering the question ngl.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    Also never quoted the Bible, just stayed their interpretation of it without referencing any specific scripture.

    Also, no internal citations in the text, that's an instant zero on any college level essay.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    The girl is a dumber than a sack of rocks, how did she ever get out of school?

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    Listen I'd fail for quoting the Bible in an essay about blood alcohol content even if I'm quoting the bits with Jesus being so schnackered his blood is wine

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago

    I used to teach community college sociology. Even as a reaction paper, that is not college level work. I would have given the student one redo.

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  • [–] 45 points 10 months ago

    Hey, this is America. We elevate dipshits and persecute educated professionals.

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  • [–] 45 points 10 months ago

    Man, God must have weak ass plans if only a few trans people can undo it.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago

    The article discussed peers using teasing as a way to enforce gender norms. I do not necessarily see this as a problem.

    She is clearly fine with everyone making fun of her and teasing her about how backwards she is.

    so many people trying to conform to the same mundane opinion, so they do not step on people’s toes. I think that is a cowardly and insincere way to live. It is important to use the freedom of speech we have been given in this country

    And please don't hold back out of politeness, you insincere coward.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago

    Can't really blame her. The education system is everything but.

    She shouldn't be in any university. This barely qualifies as high school literature. Can't expect an absolute buffoon of an amateur to perform well in the pro-league.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    While I think this is important. She’s just gonna go start some Hawk Tuah podcast from all the PR

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago

    People analyzing the content of the paper and trying to justify the grade are missing the point. Imagine someone submitted a well researched, beautifully written paper criticizing the Bible in one of the christian universities and got 0 points. Imagine they then complained on twitter. Would the teacher be suspended and investigated? Obviously not.

    This is not a story about grading papers. This story is about well organized right-wing student organizations using their influence to impose their ideology on everyone. This story is about US shifting father and farther to the right because corporate America works with conservatives to silence the progressive ideology and the left not having structures to do anything about it. (This would be a good place to talk about Charlie Kirk shooting but I don't really know what to say. It's definitely not the right way to do it but it's also the only thing done recently that had some effect).

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago*

    Thr way she graded her assignment was chefs kiss

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