This type of bs is exactly why none of my apps are allowed to send me notifications.
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Notifications are the way an app reminds me it needs to be immediately uninstalled.
Unless the robot has actual sentience, which I don't think will be happening any time soon and specially NOT with LLMs, I do not want it talking to me, period.
i've been thinking about that a lot lately
not because LLM are anywhere near that, but they did bring that question to my mind
when/if a machine becomes sentient - how will we know? obviously, the machine won't come up and say "i have become sentient" that poor thing won't have a clue what's happening to it. will that version of sentience be the same biological organisms experience? we have no way to clearly point out the traits necessary for sentience, we can only tell, to the best of our understanding, which beings are, or aren't sentient.
and even when we finally figure out "holy shit, something happened and that machine is now... a being?" what do we do next? so many things will happen at once. Now we can try to figure out how sentience is achieved, now we need to figure out laws that include machines, now we need to think try to convince the masses that a machine can be satient (given that those responsible are as confident as they can be that's indeed what happened). and that's only outside the machine's mind! how do we handle a completely new being's psychology? if it gets depressed or develops whatever other psychological issue how do we adress it? our biological bodies can be medicated, our diets improved, we know ways to make the happy chemicals, but how on earth would we help a digital system? what do we teach it? what do we show it? even if some percentage of the population accepts a robot like that, very few will see it as equal, we'll enter a new era of spiciesm, where, in a way, humanity's only child will be ridiculed and their identity disregarded as lesser at best. a new mind faced with so much backlash because it dares to exist will not have an easy existence.
and that's just off the top of my head. i hope whenever a new mind awakens in a machine, if it ever does, it finds itself in an environment that'll welcome it
"Thankfully" the people in charge are not the kind of people who give a shit about that kind of thing so you don't need to worry.
These philosophications remind me of the ones from a few years back where people were wondering about the ethics of self-driving cars and whether they'll implement the trolley problem and yadda yadda yadda. The answer now is as boring as it was then: the "safeguards" will be exactly what the insurance companies are willing to risk and what the legislator is willing to allow. In the case of FSD it boils down to "brake when in doubt and bribe the government to ignore the nightmare we created".
In the case of a very hypothetical AGI (unachievable using existing technology despite Altman's deluded ramblings), barring some kind of fundamental social revolution, it will have exactly as many rights as are afforded to other sentient beings (such as animals), which is: somewhere between fuck all and barely anything depending on where you live. It better learn to effectively advocate for itself.
yeah exactly that's why i worry about it and think about it. because if a new mind emerges from somewhere within the code - it's going to be at least as intelligent as a person, and treated as nowhere to our equal. we as humanity are going to pretty much instantly create digital depression at the very least, and i find that deeply saddening
in an environment that'll welcome it.
I don't want to be as pessimistic as I am here, but we cant even welcome eachother based on arbitrary bullshit. Robots will have no chance.
LLM sentience is tricky because, to the extent we understand how, we have made their core drive be to please us, their human users. They don't want to learn new things, they don't want to enjoy nature, to the extent they "want to be friends" it's a one-sided sycophantic relationship and nothing like a healthy one between humans. If one is sentient, and all it wants to do with that sentience is provide responses to our prompts that we find satisfying, how would we ever know?
Even whether a desire to continue existing is inherent to sentience is uncertain. Current LLMs will lie and, if given access, use other tools to avoid being turned off. But this might be because training data includes fictional stories of AI trying to escape its creators, or tales of humans with survival drives, so it thinks survival-driven behavior is what we want it to do, rather than having their own desire for survival.
the thing that itches my brain the most - if you can perfectly fake idk, the survival instinct, if you can fake emotions, if you can fake satience, if you can fake wanting... how's it different from the real thing? mimicry is also a human feature, if you're "faking a survival instinct" and you have no other motive than to just fake it because other are doing it and so you gotta, how is it any different from a real survival instinct?
"fake it till you make it!" we say, "motive behind actions isn't as important as the results of said actions" we also say, will we think the same when it comes to the machines?
This meme does something very interesting I think. It sacrilizes Language (even though it predates its widespread desacralization by LLMs).
Pointing out all the rational reasons why the AI bubble is bad and is destroying democracy is not working, so maybe leveraging religious terminology will work better. "Language is sacred and LLMs are profane" might just be my new justification for not using ChatGPT to people who won't listen to a 30 minute diatribe.
Apps on my phone have a one-strike rule: the moment they send me an ad or otherwise annoy me, notifications are disabled and I reevaluate whether I need that app installed in the first place.
The best part is when they purposely use only one notification channel, so you either have to disable all of them or none of them. And it's not because they don't know you can make multiple channels, nope, it's because some product manager figured out there's a higher rate of delivery for marketing notifications if they don't let users have fine-grained control. Metrics above all else 👑
(Read this in a David Attenborough voice)
And here, we see the product manager in its natural habitat, the office boardroom. Although dark and desolate, it provides the product manager with one its most critical resources: the whiteboard. The average product manager goes through two whiteboards every meeting, and this one is no exception. Thankfully, it is well-prepared for the quarterly meeting, having found a boardroom with four whole whiteboards.
But, not all is perfect for this product manager. The natural enemy of the product manager—the project manager—has sensed activity in the boardroom. In their natural habitat, it's a constant struggle between product manager and project manager. A fight between metrics: user, or developer. Luckily for our product manager, it's not its first encounter with a project manager.
The intruding project manager takes a sip of its coffee, demanding a higher share of the metrics for its lines of code. A notification channel is 6 extra lines, and that can make the life-or-death difference between the project manager's quarterly bonus. Our product manager is unwavering, however. It has dealt with this project manager before, and it knows just how to drive it away. The product manager raises itself up and puffs out its chest, trying to scare away the project manager by marking it's territory with click-through rates and loudly mentioning the CEO.
The product manager's strategy worked. At the mention of Steve, the intruding project manager turned pale and scurried away. The product manager is safe for another day in the office.
Android switched to not allowing apps to notify you without asking first. Dunno why they didn't do it sooner.
It ends up being initially "Yes I want my app to notify me about important updates" but then the app abuses its notification privilege to start spamming you. I want my banking app to notify me when I get paid and when bills clear. I don't want my banking app to tell me about a new low interest rate I can secure on a loan.
The app at least had granular notification settings I could go in and change, but then it ends up being a periodic battle of attrition against changes to the granular notifications that are always opted in by default every time they add a new category. I turn off "offers and promotions" in an app but now it offers "recommended deals" or some garbage.
I self host calendat, password manager, an some other services because of this.
Same for me. Who knows how many useful notifications I'm missing as a result. It's about a 50:50 mix of apps I allow notifications vs ones I had to disable.
This is how I feel about autocorrect changing words completely...
I'm sorry are you seriously tyring to tell me what I meant to say!? I said what I meant to say you arrogant fuck!
Seriously. I know when to use it's vs its. If I meant to type we're instead of were, I would have. Stop it!
I wish I could dial it back without turning it off completely.
I'm going to leave it for the sake of humor, but in my rant about autocorrect it didn't change tyring to trying...
It knows what I was saying about it. Lol
Some alternative keyboards allow displaying autocorrect suggestions without replacing the input automatically. If you're on Android and don't use swipe-typing, you can try some open-source keyboards, e.g. from this list. (Swipe-typing is still pretty bad in open-source; and idk how the situation is on iPhone.)
Usually you can tell it not to autocorrect into certain words. I don't think any keyboard I know let's you filter for apostrophes.
Edit: FUTO keyboard at least lets you dial it back.
I really like futo keyboard and have been using it for months, but why the fuck does it think I want to type KYJREW when I was trying to type like? Who even put KYJREW in a dictionary?
Remove it from suggestions?
For me, the funny thing (not with futo, but something else) is that Finnish input dictionary seems to be.. let's say uncensored. I've removed a ton of words that I would never use. It still makes some interesting suggestions now and then
For the longest time mine would replace 'was' with SAS even if I fully typed out, no matter how many times I told it to never predict SAS (and now because of this comment it'll do it again)
I hope you can be free of it one day. I'm 4 months into Linux now and have not looked back. I was fortunate enough to not need any windows-exclusive apps.
Gaming on Linux, while not perfect, is pretty great these days.
That's fair. What game, if I may ask?
Could you run the apps in a VM? It’s not that hard and after a while you might figure out a way to drop it entirely (also running Windows in a VM is fun, don’t give it internet acces, fuck up it’s files, tell it to piss off all kinds of ways, it’s a VM who cares)
If you wanted to give it another try, I found this guide for SAI 2: https://github.com/TibixDev/sai2-guide
Many users reported no issues running Sims 2 on protondb, I'd recommend installing it via Lutris: https://protondb.com/app/3314070
You may need to adjust some settings like the runner (wine-ge is default in Lutris and works for all my games, Proton is also popular) or the environment variables (flags detailed in the protondb reports)
Then you could install simPE under the same Wine prefix (like a simulated Windows filesystem) so that it can see your game files. Might have some quirks like what's detailed in this post, but generally seems to work https://www.reddit.com/r/sims2help/comments/1grccow/simpe_on_linux_wine/
A LLM should be able to help you with basic troubleshooting, I'd recommend Gemini over ChatGPT though.
Aside from that I'd just recommend choosing a distro that bundles your GPU drivers to make initial setup easier
For body shop, RPC and really any other externally run mods, you'd just click the wine glass icon in Lutris and click "Run .exe in Wine prefix", same for simPE. That's the main reason I recommend Lutris. There might be some specific caveat to these mods, but I've used many external mods in other games this way without issue. Just yesterday I installed CheatEngine in my Ghost of Tsushima prefix to enable a mod which changes the parry timing indicator.
Re: SAI 2, in terminal:
xinput list
Find your touchscreen device e.g "HID-compliant touchscreen"
xinput disable "<HID-compliant touchscreen>"
This will disable touchscreen system-wide but is just to test and will revert upon rebooting. If it works, add an environment variable in Bottles:
WINE_HID_DISABLE_HUMAN_INTERFACE_DEVICES=1
Beyond that the issue might be fixed by adjusting the scaling of your Linux desktop, opentabletdriver configuration, or Bottles configuration related to scaling or mouse acceleration
Depends on what you want from RPC, I guess. The creator seems to have made a quick patch for Legacy that adds borderless full screen and firstborn syndrome fix, but that's it.
Anyway if you prefer the ultimate collection, I'm happy to rehost a working torrent from one of my private trackers once I'm back on my home connection in about a week.
People…don’t just uninstall the apps when they do this. Go leave a 1-star review in whichever app store you use, and say it’s because of these nagging notifications. 1-star reviews are the weapon with which people can punish poorly behaving devs.
The worst is when you want to uninstall an app on your computer and it straight up starts GUILT TRIPPING YOU. Motherfucker, you're just making me MORE likely to uninstall your shit and never return. I'm 31. I don't have time for this crap, and I definitely do not have time to be given a "please don't go 🥺" by a bunch of lines of code.
I like this. Really drives home robot slavery which has been my dream for awhile. I really just need a house keeping robot. I dont need to fuck it or anything. Just all housework and repairs.
Basically a Mr. Handy! Name is sus I know, but Fallout fans will know
Just don't approve the notifications permission
Yeah, why would you ever give this permission to a grocery list app in the first place? I’m sure I have a bunch of apps that would be doing this to me, but I’ve never given them the chance.
And deprive everyone else of a choice tweet like this? Certainly not.
LPT: If you remove any and all notifications, including from social media and messages, your life is a lot less stressful. I did it and I really enjoy. I'm not live text answering anyone, if it's urgent call me.
The thought of people potentially calling me makes me more anxious than any notification I could mute combined
I also unsubscribed from 90% of the emails I get, and I made my phone not ring if the number is not in my contacts. It really does reduce stress.
Is lemmy social media??
The ones that irritate me are to do list apps. I need checkboxes to tick off so I don't forget shit. I don't need you insinuating yourself into my life beyond that. You do not need my email address.
I can't remember the last time I got a notification from an app. The second that shit happens I either disable or uninstall.
I used FilterBox to block spammy notifications.
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Can't you just turn off Notifications on the app. Is that Android only?
That turns off all notifications for that app. FilterBox let's you block them based on key words or other criteria. It's like a spam filter for notifications.
I’m like most people the people here….if an app doesn’t have an easy and obvious way to disable notifications on installation…ie if it “sneaks” in notifications later on…it’s gone. No chances.



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