Yet another reason to support Ukraine, maybe they'll knock out Moscow's power more often.
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Dude it's such a clown show in there. I don't think normal people even fuck with that sub anymore. The conservatives I've known are nothing like that. I keep going back just to tip more controversial and divisive comments towards the top tho so maybe I'm the problem
I don't think normal people even fuck with that sub anymore.
My dude, "normal people" don't fuck with anything the right does anymore.
All right-wingers are lead-brained troglodytes, and being right wing is fundamentally a personality and/or intellectual disorder.
I second the personality disorder thing. For me, the past few years, the right wingers have been exactly the people I expected. The worst of the worst. The meanest of the mean. The greediest of the greedy. Not once did a nice person turn out to be right-wing.
I remember when Russia cut itself off from the internet for like 3 days, and virtually every social media site I frequented was a lot calmer and nicer for those days. It was surreal seeing how fucking much of the internet is just Russia.
Mmm I wonder what that means 🤔
Maybe 30% - 50% of content on any subreddit is bots / shills?
Dead internet theory and all that.
It certainly seems like the same old comments over and over on reddit these days...
Removing the conservatives who dissent might backfire on them bc they might end up thinking they're not considered "conservative" anymore and find other ppl to hang out with. And the reddit shillbot page will just be talking to itself. One can hope
thats just conservative media as a whole its a psyop to make people not pay attention to real issues by distracting gullible people by making them believe silly conservative ideas that ultimately end up biting them in the ass later. Its just business to these outlets and influencers, theyre paid by how good they are at painting a picture even if it isnt backed up at all by reality.
It’s direct from the Russian playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_generation_warfare
This explains why they sent a bunch of rust bucket soviet tanks into ukraine. It seemed to have the opposite effect when they got blown up though. This feels like a deeply risky strategy with the risk being a mix of blowback and rallying your enemies.
The plan doesn’t account for one universal law: Russians always lie and steal.
In this case the people in charge of psyops in Ukraine pocketed the budget and just sent “yep, all good” reports upstream.
On the other hand, things are working really well on social media. Go on any TikTok video about the Ukraine war or about EU internal politics and within 1-2 minutes you have people arguing with VERY specific talking points and have 50+ likes.
And you can see when they escalate the basic talking points to Tier 2 Arguers, I had one guy claiming to be Irish know very very very specific things about some EU investigation that happened in Ukraine around 2012. Stuff that NOBODY cares about unless you're a hardcore Russia fan, a Russian disinfo bot or in a very specific place on the spectrum.
blowback and rallying your enemies.
imo exactly what’s happened with russia… pre-full-scale invasion nobody gave a shit about russia… even crimea tbh people were mostly indifferent
now? i dont know anyone real that doesn’t think the whole country can go to hell, and that russia always lies
the standard reaction to hearing about undersea cables being cut is: fuck russia; we should bomb their fucking ships those absolute cunts - even if we have no idea if it’s russia or not!
win or lose in ukraine, russia has lost so much - at least for the short-term
Virtually every major outlet for the right wing is, in some way shape or form, controlled by fascist foreign actors. Especially Russia.
All the dumb-fuck faux leftists supporting Russia over Ukraine, claiming Ukraine has a major Nazi problem, need to open their fucking eyes and see Russia is the biggest exporter of Nazism world wide.
the best part of all of it..is the reveal twitter had a couple weeks ago, where they put access location and registration location as publicly visible..for all of 5 minutes, revealing the fact that most big head conservative twitter accounts are foreign controlled psyop/propaganda outlets.
Crazy how the right wing just absolutely ignores that 98% of all the big totally patriotic american twitter accounts telling them what to do and how to feel come from russia, belarus, etc etc.
Interesting. Which accounts were these at the time of reveal?
https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accounts-based-outside-us-exposed-11097693
heres some of them, I'm pretty sure there was more.
Huh, none of those accounts listed were in Russia, and some were in Germany and in "Eastern European country not in the EU"
They hate the libs so much they'd prefer to get bent over by our enemies as long as the libs get owned.
If we invade Venezuela or even continue to steal oil tankers, is argue we're at least the same of level fascism as Russia. Prageru is insane I've heard that some schools have prageru in the classrooms. It's hard to imagine that we aren't on the same path as Putin was. We could elect the coolest socialist women president ever and the supreme Court would still be there to prevent any progressive legislature. We suck
Russia's influence would be evident even if there weren't so much evidence of the interference and troll farm employees speaking out. Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump's policies.
Just look at the Russian anti-trans laws and compare them to Trump's policies.
Hate to bring it to you, but the evil doesn't have to have a single source. Authoritarian regimes all across the world during the entirety of recent history have been banning LGBTQ+. Autocrats are obsessed with non conforming sex and identities
It's not about the fact of cracking down on minorities, but about the specific language used, specific policies introduced and changes made. Think of any part of Trump's crackdown on trans rights and you'll find direct equivalents to it in Putin's recent policies that preceded it. There are many ways to be transphobic, but they land on the same themes and talking points pushed by the right-wing figures who take Russian money.
Are you suggesting transphobia in the west is because Russia is ordering western leaders to pass anti-trans laws?
Or did you just mean America, and TERF island gets its transphobia from a different source?
In this instance, I'm talking specifically about Trump, but Russia's influence on Europe is also undeniable, though not always as crystal clear. They have their own people in the European parliaments and intelligence from the likes of Schröder, in addition to paying the likes of Le Pen, running the troll factories, creating fake news, and so forth.
I think it's rarely done as a direct order. More often than not, it's a combination of all those things, best illustrated by when the Russian government and its trolls paid for Facebook ads and pretended to be American activists, getting people inside America out to protest for both guns rights and against them, as well as for BLM and for the likes of Trump. They've done the same in Africa and other regions. One of the goals is to create division not only to weaken but also to use domestically, as Putin's justification for his "strong hand" leadership has often been to point at the "chaotic" and "soulless" West and ask if the population wants the same in Russia.
Russia is capitalist, fascist and an aggressor state, yet it's loved by some communists. It makes no sense.
Because those aren't actual communists, they're tankies.
Tabkies don't have any actual principles, let alone any beliefs whatsoever.
Their beliefs are solely anti-West and that is it. It doesn't matter what contradictions or outright lies they must embrace. As long as the narrative is anti-West, they're 100% on board.
Virtually every major outlet for the right wing is, in some way shape or form, controlled by fascist foreign actors.
The most powerful state in world history is not being controlled by foreign actors; it is controlling much of the world through its own actors. The fascism is coming from inside the US empire.
https://worldbeyondwar.org/military-empires?operatingcountry=unitedstates

Not only that, but these two users post with the same pattern: 4-5 posts in a burst and then staying quiet.
Makes you just want to build a script that tracks and analyze these accounts but I would feel to totalitarian doing that. I just block them.
Obviously by agitprop, Putin wants to be the first to win the new Cold War without even firing a single shot.
It may be working in the short term but in the medium term MAGA may be imploding as real people get their faces eaten by leopards and become disillusioned with the movement.
Also it's a cult of personality meaning it requires active maintenance by the leader, meanwhile Trump is actively melting and may not even have enough of a personality to count eventually.
Reminds me of an old soviet joke:
Q: Now that Stalin has died, what happened to his cult of personality?
A: The personality has died, that is true, but the cult lives on.
While that may be true there is a near universal fact I have observed with cults. When the original leader dies they bleed manpower well that or they fracture like a khaganate, though that can be stopped with sufficiently competent successors, I greatly doubt anyone can hold this particular mess together.
I think Trump's main leverage was the Epstein files and the people that thought they would be "exposed" for associating with him. Trump learned from Roy Cohn (there's someone to read up on.. the guy was an absolute POS) to lean into people that were a bit dirty and use their shame (something Trump has almost none of) to control them. Couch Fucker Vance has squat and if Trump croaks or falls totally apart, the House and Senate are going to eat him alive once he assumes the Presidency..
That doesn't mean much. It just means the next snake oil salesman that appeals to their base emotions will win their dumb hearts.
Regular, factual and continued education is the only way out of this mess. Note the present dismantlement of said Department.
All those snake oil salesmen are looking ning up for the 2028 primary, and it's going to be entertaining.
Trump will endorse his son, so that he can win, Trump can be Chief of Staff, and they'll hire a woman to be assistant Chief of Staff, and make her do all the work, and fetch coffee. If he wins, Trump will sit at the Resolute desk, and Jr will sit at a card table with a folding chair. Every day will be bring your senile father to work day.
Vance will have Usha deported, and marry Erika Kirk, who will divorce him when he flames out for president, after getting caught with a rentboy, pissing off his Sugar Daddy Peter Theil, who will break up with him, and then spend a billion bucks destroying his life.
Rubio will stagger around wide-eyed and clueless as usual.
MTG will make all of her appearances dressed like a Star Spangled Rodeo Clown.
And then there will be 20 other MAGA narcissists in line, whose candidacies will all fall apart one by one, as their campaigns fall apart when various scandals come to light.
And the Dems will put up several worthy challengers, several terrible candidates, pick the worst one, and lose.
A bomb only explodes for a few miliseconds. The problem is the damage it does persists.
China's way ahead.
Indeed. They have our infrastructure by the balls. As soon as we try and stop them from taking Taiwan, if that even happens, we will stop having water power and gas in short order.
After 8 hours without water hospitals stop working. Think about that for a minute.
Wait what
In what way does China control the infrastructure? That's concerning
Is it like, they make the software and can killswitch it?
So, water and power infrastructure use shitty old industrial control systems, are most if not all are on the Internet, run at a financial deficit, and are generally not well maintained. They don't have the time, funding, manpower or knowledge to decrease their attack surface nor to operate manually rather than via the junk ICS they're using.
They (volt typhoon) practiced in mennasotas infrastructure and iirc sat in there 300 days and they had full control. They're using several novel attack vectors, have as of August, built a presence in police, fire, hospital, electric, power, and gas infrastructure.
https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa24-038a
https://cybersecuritynews.com/amazon-catches-north-korean-it-worker/
https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa25-343a
The gun is loaded. They're still working for more complete control. The timeline is 2027ish, or whenever China attacks Taiwan and the US steps up.
The attack is expected to be everywhere at once, that way neighboring towns won't be able to give aid because emergency services will be overwhelmed. Mutual aid agreements will fall apart.
Did you know that hospitals stop functioning entirely when water is cut for 8h? A hospital COULD function with water trucks, but not in the case of concurrent attacks.
CISA lost 1000 of it 3300 staff, and they were overtaxed before.
It's bad. Get a lifestraw or Sawyer mini.
I've not even touched on salt typhoons pwnage of telecom and network infrastructure.
Get a Meshtastic radio and a couple handhelds. Baofeng makes very approachable stuff.
The US military is self sufficient, but neither they nor the nat'l guard are equipped to help with this kind of attack.
I can't really share much more right now but there are plenty of reputable sources available online for all this. Just don't start googling before bed. Do yourself a favor.
Would this be dangerous for China to do? It IS a war crime to deprive most of a nation of water.
But would China actually be in real danger, or would the UN just yell at them and do nothing?? Or would there be a war against China?
That's a real good question, one to which I don't have an answer.
It seems to me like there would be a great deal of risk for them to do that.
But then, why are they making so much effort to position themselves to shut off water, power, and gas?
Maybe they'll use it as a prelude to an outright attack? It's hard to know for sure. This seems like at least part of their motivation: https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/xi-and-putin-s-taiwan-invasion-files-leaked-full-scale-2027-plan-confirmed/vi-AA1SB2cc
But surely they have some secrets.
That does make me wonder what China's outcome of that would be. At this point, the US has alienated so many allies, I have to wonder if we'd still have their full backing or if it would be conditional on tariffs.
Edit: Just saw this in a chat: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3337652/chinese-military-simulated-battles-near-mexico-cuba-and-taiwan-cctv-report-shows
The US is in a precarious international situation here
Some countries would side with the US, and some would oppose China but not side with the US
I hear there was a power outage in Zhenjiang and everyone I didn't like on the Internet disappeared
Surprising to nobody who isn't a conservative.
Interacting with r/conservative while having a normal human brain might be the fastest way to get a site-wide reddit ban.
One would think that real conservatives would prefer that russian troll farms can not successfully impersonate them. That now that their side holds all the legitimate power in the US, they would actively do something about this.
Sorry, what do you mean by "actual conservatives"?
Maybe that wasn't the best word but if someone is MAGA they're in general not very principled because they just accept whatever Trump does even when it goes against what past prominent conservatives did or said.
For example conservatives at-least said for a long time they were strong supporters of free speech but as soon as Trump started attacking free speech a lot of them fell in line. But for example maybe some on r/conservative would say I thought we supported free speech and then the posts would get deleted leaving only those in the MAGA cult left.
Basically the likes of George Will, Liz Cheney, and other NeverTrump republicans.
They've been driven from any influence within the GOP, but any outsider would call them conservative.
And now Nick Fuentes is trying to elbow his way in. Hard to believe this is all really happening in my life time.
Have you seen his Piers Morgan interview? What. The. Fuck
Why is it anyone's business if he's a virgin or not?
That was painful to watch for many, many reasons. The commentary, the interview questions, and of course the answers.
Do yourself a favor. If you already know Fuentes is a self-avowed Nazi, don't give that video attention.
There's no such thing as a "principled" conservative. Conservativism is the idea that nothing should change, except the things that the conservative thinks need to change. It is, without exception, based on the self-interest of the conservative determining their own positions. It's narcissism dressed in stoic nationalism wielding ignorance and fueled by anger.
That's not what conservatism is. Obviously, it's a relative term, but it still describes a concrete ideology in each society it's in. By your logic progressives want to literally have every thing to progress, but that's clearly not what the ideology behind it stands for.
Bullshit. Progressivism is based on the principles of freedom, justice, equality, and empathy. A progressive believes in their principles even when they run counter to their own self interest. A conservative, invariably, will simply choose principles that are aligned with their own self interest. Twas always thus, and forever shall be.
Read what I said again, you missed the point
I didn't miss shit. Your point is wrong. There is no underlying conservative ideology. It does not exist. Each iteration of conservatives makes up their own values and then acts like those are immovable facts. It's like drawing a circle around wherever you happen to be standing and then declaring everything within it the Kingdom of Divine Righteous People. There are no examples of conservatives who have not done this. That's not ideology, that's narcissism.
Principled supporters of things like freedom of speech are called "liberals."
MAGAs, on the other hand, are the truest conservatives we've seen since the NAZIs.
Monarchy/fascism/oppression/maintaining of hierarchy has always been what conservatism has been about. Noises to the contrary have always been lies to hoodwink their marks.
There’s all sorts of conservative “adjacents” and factions, like various sects of libertarians, finance-oriented fiscal conservatives, hawks with a more oldschool view of foreign policy, anti-corporate small business owners, farmers, some hackers, small town preachers, “Hank Hill” suburban moderates, all sorts of folks.
From my perspective in Texas, it* used* to be quite diverse. Then all of a sudden, Trump blocked out the sun, megachurches took over, and social media/Fox News really bombarded otherwise divided factions (including my family) with a lot of unified propaganda.
Don’t get me wrong; I have seen some shit you wouldn’t believe down here, and heard plenty of talk radio that makes my skin crawl. MAGA was here before Trump claimed it. But “conservative” definitely used to be a much broader term than MAGA.
…but clearly these groups are hardly represented anymore.
If OP’s post is true, Russia is very much interested in fostering “MAGA style” Republican unity, so naturally they’re going to encourage this consolidation and crowd out the factions on Reddit.
The way "Conservative" is used in America is different to other countries. Usually its an economic position, but in America its bound up with views on gun control, immigration, abortion, and pro corporate anti union power.
the mods are well known russian shills, or russian backed mods. thats why they silence even conservatives that are critical of trump.
No. MAGAts are just loud af and get the most attention. If more people just showed up to vote for Kamala instead of protest due to Israel (which is now much worse off due to Trump), he would have lost then, and his popularity is dropping everyday even among conservatives.
EDIT: I didn't get a lot of sleep last night and misread this as "Aren't most American[s] conservative these days [and are] Russian agents...". Leaving original comment intact, though there's a fair amount if Russian interference in both elections which greatly benefitted Trump both times. I do believe the voices of MAGAts are greatly amplified thanks due to the Russian bots and, well, Twump. Sorry for the confusion I caused.
That ideological diversity did not just fade on its own. Over the past decade it has been actively pruned away. Spaces like r/conservative now routinely permaban anyone who steps outside an approved line, including the kind of libertarian arguments that used to be common. What remains is a tightly controlled echo chamber that presents itself as grassroots discussion while functioning more like propaganda. Given that shift, it is hard to take it seriously as a place for real conservative debate.
The brand of wackadoo on /r/Conspiracy used to be different, too. Less hostile and agenda-pushy, just sort of anything that didn't belong in /r/UFOs or whatever. Now it's just /r/Conservative with no filter.
Algorithmic flattening comes for us all.


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