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Valve is stopping production of LCD Steam Deck models, once sold out they will be gone forever (sopuli.xyz)
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[–] 98 points 10 months ago (40 children)

Aye, I owned both. Got an LCD when it first came out and bought an OLED when they came out. Treat yourself, in all situations of visual screens OLED is better.

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    On the other hand, the LCD is perfectly fine.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    Its perfectly ok. The OLED runs cooler, brighter, and better battery life. Don't get me wrong when I got the led steamdeck when it first came out I played it more than my gaming PC. Steam deck is awesome but if you can manage the few bucks more always go OLED. I literally sold the LED at a steep discount and bought the OLED and dont regret it.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Makes you wonder why Nintendo decided to make the base Switch 2 model LCD

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Because it's cheaper to make and allows them to release an OLED version at a premium later.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I figured but it just feels like a nuisance for many of us

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Well, it seems to be a huge improvement over the LCD screen on the OG Switch so there's that. Besides, an OLED hardware revision isn't a given by any means, it's just speculation.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (26 children)

    Disagree on the oled thing. Oled is better in a lot of cases, specially if everything on the screen is constantly changing. However, for a computer that will be displaying the taskbar 70% of the time its not ok. Oled burn in is a thing

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Auto hide the taskbar, burn your wallpaper instead. Oled burn is really is much less of an issue these days thanks to better panels and pixel shifting tech.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I have a folder of backgrounds they switch every hour just for this reason.

    But I hardly ever see them with full screen apps anyway and app/spaces switching with gestures is like second nature. Like having a laptop with 4-5 monitors.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Is pixel shifting a thing on Linux? The Steam UI too?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Pixel shifting is done entirely on the monitors firmware nowadays, no OS intervention necessary.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Oh niiice. I wonder why Samsung still does AOD shifting on their Android roms then?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    To quote Rtings:

    under normal circumstances, with mixed usage, burn-in isn't an issue

    Even if your task bar is on 70% of the time, you're not going to see any significant burn-in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1gr-YypY4&t=208

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Every Android phone I've owned with an OLED screen (including modern ones) have had burn-in (or rather, burn-out) problems, specifically with the status bar.

    If I had a choice, I would still be using LCDs on phones.

    Also on TVs with modern backlighting technology, LCDs are remarkably close to OLEDs in terms of picture quality.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Really? That's interesting, because I've never noticed burn-in on any of my OLED phones, even though I did use them for many years each. But then again, I've always wondered why seemingly nobody talks about burn-in on phones, while there is a lot of fuzz being made around it on computer monitors.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I actually just checked this on my Pixel 7 the other day. I have no noticeable burn in, not even in the status bar, except for the pill at the bottom of the screen. I've had the phone for almost three years.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Phone AMOLED screens are entirely different beasts compared to QD-OLED/WOLED on TVs and monitors.

    Phone OLEDs are much more dense, run much hotter and brighter, most also lack pixel shifting and many even pixel refreshing.

    I also had some severe burn-in on phones.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    What kind of time frame were they testing over? Not seeing any significant burn in means something completely different if they're testing for one year versus ten, especially for people who don't like replacing things that aren't totally unusable yet.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    A lot of people have done burn in tests on the OLED, and it's barely a concern. The tech has really improved.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Since you said 'the oled' i assume you mean the steam deck oled. Im not denying its bad, on contrary. Steam deck is a device that is constantly changing whats displayed. Thats good to prevent burn in on any device. The guy said oled is always better, which is what i disagreed with. Ive seen enough phones and computers monitors that were oled that had the windows taskbar, or android status bar, burned in over the years cause its a static thing. Like any display, burn in is possible but dont underestimate oled on burn in

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    Even then, the concerns are way way way waaaaaay overblown.

    Hardware unboxed have been purposely trying to burn in an OLED for thousands of hours, and it's still barely perceptible even when you're trying to look for it by taking a picture of the screen then applying filters to make it more visible. In real world usage its effectively impossible.

    With any modern OLED display, burn in is something you don't need to worry about.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ehhh, it's still a thing. I had burn in on my S9, and I babied that thing explicitly to prevent burn in. And that was after 4-5 years. My desktop monitors are nearly a decade old starting next year (wow, 1440p still has amazing staying power).

    I'd definitely worry about burn-in if you have Teams open for nine hours a day and the taskbar on. It's crazy to me that phones still burn in from casual use. :/

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I didn't say it's not a thing, I said it's not something you really have to worry about with modern displays.

    I'd definitely worry about burn-in if you have Teams open for nine hours a day and the taskbar on.

    And yet, the testing seems to show that's not an issue.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I have a Phillips evnia ultrawide that has accumulated over 6000 hours SOT over the last year and a half, over 3k of that was playing RuneScape 3. You have to turn the brightness down to 10% and be on a flat grey screen to even see the beginning of burn in. It's really a non issue, even in "torture" scenarios like getting 200m mining xp on the screen full time.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    The only thing I dislike about it, having seen the in-store demos, is the fringing on text and hard edges. It can looks like chromatic abberation in very contrasty games. The OLED subpixel layout just isn't quite ideal, especially at 1280x800 7.4".

    The LCD version has less issues there. Less gaps between the pixels and a standard RGB vertical strip layout.

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    • [–] 51 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    With the way that memory prices are going, Valve is going to bring back the 64GB model.

    /s

    /not s

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I got the 64gb intentionally to just put in a 512gb myself. Was no problem to do, and saved quite a bit on the price difference. I'm extremely happy with the device, but don't use it nearly enough.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I dropped in a 2Tb when prices were still good.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    These are SSD, not RAM.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    SSDs are being affected too. Not as much, and I forget why exactly, maybe because it's all silicon and shares some manufacturing resources? 🤷‍♂️

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    • [–] 73 points 10 months ago

    Good night cheapest game box on the market.

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    [–] 30 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I wonder if DDR prices are a factor. They might lose too much with the lower proved model compared to the OLED models.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    These have DDR4 RAM, right? But Gaben did say that the original $399 price was difficult to hit, so any small increase in component prices might make it impossible.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Look on OfferUp and you'll see folks coming out of the woodwork trying to sell 64gb DDR4 for $300-700.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    “If I keep the price the same, how will I afford my fifth’s yacht’s docking bay for my smaller yachts?!”

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    If Gabe Newell was going to fund something with his personal finances why in living fuck would he subsidize a games console instead of donating to charity.

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    • [–] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I just got a 2nd LCD during the sale. Unfortunately it was broken and I'm still waiting on a replacement. With any luck they'll send me an OLED one instead 😜

    Edit: just got the shipping confirmation, so no luck. Also, not getting it until the 29th. 23 days from reporting the issue to getting a replacement 🤬

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    [–] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I love mine ❤️🥹

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    • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    Already out of stock

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    [+] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    2 will be the final version too

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    • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I ran out of 512 so fast on legion go s, (sd card reader sucks) Couldn't go with 256, but ive heard steam deck has a decent reader

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The Deck's reader does the full 80MB/s UHS-I well enough. It works well electrically, but the ejector sucks. I've picked up my system, and had the card randomly hang out like 😛. It is vital to tape over the card to keep it from wandering off on its own.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I put a fast 512GB SD card for dashcams in mine, and it works fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    I went with a cheap one, but it's max speeds should still be higher than what it can read/write, will try a more expensive one. Some games like flat out 2 worked off it, but loaded super slow with ocassional stutters and a single crash, would be fine on tv, but I want to quickly launch and play games when using a handheld. How fast do yours launch?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    No different than from the internal drive as far as I can tell. I've never had any of those issues. It's a Samsung Pro.

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    • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm sure the headline should say "once sold out, they'll only be available on the second-hand market". Not gone forever though.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    nah they will be remotely exploding all steamdecks 100% real source trust me bro

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    • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Gave my 64 GB to a family member. Have a gaming laptop so I don't miss it as much.

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    [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    is that the largest one or the smallest one? (i just can't remember the three tiers)

    i remember i got the larger one and still love it; i'm just worried if they stop selling it, it won't be able to be repaired if god forbid something happens to it

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago

    Right now, they sell a 256GB LCD, 512GB OLED, and a 1TB OLED. The 256GB LCD is going away, leaving only the 512GB OLED and the 1TB OLED.

    Previously they had offered 3 sizes of LCD, 64/256/512.

    When the LCD models sell out for good, they might start offering a lower price OLED with less storage, but that's just speculation.

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