Librewolf and Waterfox devs have both publicly said they wouldn't be inclluding the AI stuff. Waiting on Floorp and Zen devs to weigh in still.
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Gonna be switching this weekend. It would be great to have a thread that helps all Librewolf newbies.
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LibreWolf default settings are kind of annoying for someone who lives alone and no one else has physical access to their desktop. I don't need to be logged out of everything and have my history wiped every time.
I finally tried LibreWolf today and gave up after about an hour of getting annoyed that my less-secure preferences wouldn't stick and stay. I don't know, maybe I'm not the target audience, but was finally thinking of giving a Firefox fork a shot and it mostly just annoyed me because I am not necessarily looking for something so ultra secure that it's deleting all the history and shit every time the browser closes. I feel like having cookies persist isn't something I should have to allow on a site-by-site basis when I want to stay logged into like 30 different sites, including local sites on my LAN that I manage personally.
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So far!
I was so close to accept LibreWolf and finally make the switch from Firefox. But sadly LibreWolf does not support saving in Browser passwords. Its because of security concerns, I get it. But look, I want to save passwords in the browser. And sadly this killed LibreWolf for me.
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I'm using Librewolf for everything except for what I need to be logged in. The reason is that Librewolf pretends to be in UTC timezone. This is for privacy reasons, but when I load my calendar I need to see it in my timezone. There are manuals of how to turn that off, but the changes I made following their own workaround (https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#what-are-the-most-common-downsides-of-rfp-resist-fingerprinting) never changed that behavior.
So what I do is using Epiphany for tool sites I need to login and a correct timezone, and everything else I use Librewolf.
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I switched to LibreWolf about six months ago -ish. I'm very happy with the browser. Happy to hear they won't be incorporating the AI BS.
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I switched to LibreWolf from Waterfox. Happy with my decision! Even more happy with this announcement!
It's a little unfortunate MacOS support isn't the best. However, I totally agree with their stance of not paying the Apple tax. I run Linux, but I can't totally recommend LibreWolf to my non-techie family cuz they're on MacOS...
On the other hand, LibreWolf was one of the reasons I moved my parents to Fedora Silverblue!
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Woohoo! My partner is switching soon because Ecosia betrayed its user base. Eco warrior browser now uses AI search assistant.
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I just downloaded it today and it's been pretty solid. Need to keep using it to see if anything pops up but I think I'm making the switch.
Been on Firefox for probably more than a decade now. And I have zero need for a Chromium browser.
I would use it if I could have bitwarden. Anyone know if Firefox extensions can be ported into librewolf?
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I hope they keep the offline translation. It's actually an OK use of LLMs with two caveats: I'm not sure how ethically they have been trained, and I don't trust the output for anything vaguely important.
Thankyou.
People do get that ultimately Firefox is paying rent right? Like if firefox goes too far, the much smaller team behind Librewolf is very unlikely to be able to keep up.
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Been using this for about two years now and still going strong
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Nice to see
I was just looking where to donate to them. The chads aren't even accepting donations.
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The wolf does not concern itself with AI
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I'm assuming all these privacy forks are pretty much expected to be ai-free
Noice.🦊
hell yeah
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Thank you for cross-posting!
How does it slip through?
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I'm glad this got posted over here.
Two Firefox forks are saying the same thing, and, to be clear, they both are absolutely saying it. One is LibreWolf and the other is Waterfox.
If you're wondering what the difference is, Waterfox was made to be like a lighter version of Firefox, when Firefox started adding bloat that some people disagreed with. It's Firefox, but with fewer options (in this case that's a good thing!), and a different icon. LibreWolf is the privacy-focused Firefox fork. While Waterfox has some privacy options turned on, LibreWolf goes all out in hardening the browser. If you say "fuck AI," both of them would be a good place to turn. (You should already be on a browser like Firefox anyway, since Chrome and its forks are so hard against privacy and security.)
Firefox is still good enough for most people. I saw the AI feature and I quickly disabled it. There's more context to these quotes though; it's not the AI that Firefox has put into its app already; it's a comment Mozilla made about it evolving into an AI browser at some point in the future. So if you do stick with Firefox, you should have the names "Waterfox" and "LibreWolf" in the back of your mind. Or maybe go look them up! They're both free, so maybe try one or both alongside your existing browser and see if they are right for you.
(I still use Firefox, but if they get too much cosier with AI, I'm liking LibreWolf's approach.)
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How did it "slip through"? Did it reach the stable channel or did people report it in the beta / dev channels?
This is new info for me. I didn't know LW even had a browser. Thank you for sharing!
But I'm good with Brave.
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