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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago

Seen on Imgur earlier:

Screenshot of a message about Firefox joining the browsers hammering their own genitals

Source: https://imgur.com/gallery/zQCk3V2 (But apparently Imgur is using AI in moderation now and users complain about deleted images. So who knows if this will be gone soon.)

[–] gtr@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

Oh god please, no!

[–] xyro@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

Sad to see Mozilla becoming what they were supposed to protect us from...

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

🤮

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

But lemmy taught me a couple years ago to use Firefox instead of chrome and now I don't know what to use next

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[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 6 points 10 months ago

there's still plenty of firefox forks you can use that won't go this ai route or will simply turn it off by default. Librewolf, mullvad, zen, floorp, etc.

if you want to go the chrome route there's vivaldi although for whatever reason lately it doesn't save anything when i'm using it on nixos and it's kind of an ugly bloated mess now.

I use Qutebrowser so I have none of the issues from either.

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

Give Vivaldi a look

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[–] Levi@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

I also like Vivaldi.

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago

Person after my own heart

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[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago

Recently switched to Mullvad, I like it

[+] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works -8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't stand the massive rage boner Lemmy has with AI. As soon as it's mentioned you all start frothing at the mouth. Fucking chill.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Found the slop enjoyer.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Or maybe I'm just tired of every thread being filled with AI complaints. I'm not taking sides, I'm just tired of the constant complaining.

But if you all want to keep wasting your time and energy bitching about this shit on fucking Lemmy of all places, you do you. I'm sure it's helping....someone.

I should've know better, complaining about complainers never helps. I'll go back to using Lemmy less and less cause I'm tired of all you miserable twats.

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 45 points 10 months ago (1 child)

The new CEO's overarching goal is to turn Mozilla into the “world’s most trusted software company,” citing public dissatisfaction with today’s privacy practices and the tech industry’s growing appetite for all kinds of data.

What the fuck does this man think the industry is feeding the data to?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago

They already were the most trusted software company. So what the fuck do they mean here?

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 38 points 10 months ago

“New CEO”

Did anyone for a fraction of a second expect anything good to follow that part?

[–] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago*

How about forking Firefox and make that into an AI browser instead of ruining the good old Firefox?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've been sticking with Firefox through thick and thin. All through the rise of chrome I stuck with Firefox. They sure are making it hard. Think I'm going to have to pull the plug soon.

[–] fizzle 62 points 10 months ago (1 child)

I've always defended mozilla after every dumb mistake, but I'm over it.

They're pretty much just cooked at this point.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Guess we're going to have to go with Brave then.

...

Oh wait

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox strip Firefox clean of AI.

Zen is a feature powerhouse like Vivaldi, without the bloat. LibreWolf is privacy focused and ships with uBlock Origin by default.

Zen is my main browser. LibreWolf at work for stability. Waterfox works on PC and Android, but I only use it on the latter so can't vouch for its performance on the former.

There are even more Firefox forks, but these are the one's I use.

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[–] daizelkrns@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

I tried to use Zen in my work computer but IT flagged it and made me uninstall it, due to privacy and security concerns. The approved browsers are edge, chrome and vanilla Firefox.

Go figure

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you need to monitor operational processes from within a browser I wouldn't recommend Zen. If you don't, damn, that sucks ☹. I hope you can at least install uBlock Origin in vanilla Firefox.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago

What do you use for android?

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[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 months ago

Haha Jesus. Seeya!

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 13 points 10 months ago

donate to servo!

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

fuck this shit!

[–] m105@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 10 months ago

Well...Waterfox kinda looks good

[–] papercut@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ladybird can't come soon enough

[–] jimi_henrik@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

If Firefox is now considered a bad choice based on what the new CEO said, what do you think of Ladybird's leader?

https://drewdevault.com/2025/09/24/2025-09-24-Cloudflare-and-fascists.html (relevant section about halfway through)

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[–] Quokka 3 points 10 months ago

Don't use Ladybird, use Servo (It's only 0.3, so I would advise waiting).

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[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Christ.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

The last few months of tech news alone have me feeling like he ain't answering his ring doorbell.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

Thank god for Librewolf.

[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Which is a fork of Firefox. Librewolf lives and dies by Firefox’s continued development.

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[–] PixTupy@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sigh.. another one down. Anyone know good alternatives?

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Librefox is a privacy focused fork of Firefox. And if what I use. I've also heard good things about waterfox

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[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 2 points 10 months ago

if you like vim navigation there's Qutebrowser. I use that as my daily driver and I love it. will never use another browser again.

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[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Personally I've heard of 3 other "Foxes"; Waterfox, Ironfox & Librefox. Anyone know the differences between these & the use cases? I've been wanting to switch off Firefox to something more privacy-focused and this has given me a good push to do so.

[–] nkk@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

IronFox is a privacy fork for Android, the rest of these are meant for desktop.

Waterfox is privacy-focused but more focused on convenience than Librewolf*.

Librewolf is also privacy-focused but leans further into privacy than Waterfox with the sacrifice of convenience.

Mullvad Browser leans even further into privacy than Librewolf with the sacrifice of convenience. Made by the Tor team and Mullvad.

*I haven't used Waterfox much but this seems to be the consensus online

Personally, I use Mullvad Browser as a daily driver, and anything that doesn't work on Mullvad Browser I use Librewolf or hardened Brave for. (Many people don't like Brave but I like to have a privacy-focused Chromium-based browser for web development)