Desktop:

• Librewolf (Codeberg)
• Waterfox (GitHub) (Also available for Android)
• Mullvad Browser (GitHub)

Android:

• IronFox
• Fennec F-Droid (GitLab)
• WebLibre (GitHub)

I had to switch away because of incompatible websites (Cloudflare hates it) but Pale Moon is still hanging around.

Source available here.

If you want to sidestep firefox, all firefox descendants would eventually pose the same problem. So I think many options others provided are suboptimal in that regard.

I'm keeping my eyes on ladybird: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird https://ladybird.org/

But it still is in its early stages.

https://floorp.app/

Not gecko but Ladybird is hopefully around the corner. Github

It AI's the AIable content that AI hasn't already AI'd.

You made me read the Comet browser review, as I did not have the courage to install it myself.

Seems useful if done privately and under supervision:

• has an AI chat sidebar that can interact with what you're viewing
• can fill out forms (eg. you can dump unstructured text and have it fill, instead of copying field by field)
• it can browse the internet for you - you ask it a question and watch it browse pages to find one with an answer
• it can summarize the currently watched page. Which at first I thought was ridiculous but sometimes you need to get information from shitty bloated articles with 10 paragraphs of introduction

As long as it's optional and done right (eg. It can fill the form but it's me who submits it, and the model is running locally), sounds very useful. Also no reason why it can't be a Firefox addon instead of built in.

At what point does removing garbage become so complicated that they just stop merging anything in at all.

How long can they do they for. Like it or not Mozilla does most of the coding for those browsers. 0

That's a sick burn.

That's actually a decent take on it.

Librewolf

Tldr: Zen is Arc Browser before they went AI brain worm but firefox based.

I like Zen browser because of their workspace thing. There's pinned tabs, but with zen each workspace can have its own pinned tabs. I still van set a global pinned tabs for all workspaces. And they work great with firefox containers. Each workspace can have a default container. So that way my work workspace can have only my work google account signed in, and my personal only with ny personal etc.

But ine of the major bugs though is that sometimes your tabs can just go poof. Had it happened to me earlier in the year, managed to restore my tabs somehow. Reported the bug but I don't see progress on the issue tracker as far as I ca understand.

If syncing netween desktop and monile is a concern, zen still uses firefox sync.

Mostly because Mozilla is terrible at achieving its goals, so this will probably result in nothing

so long as it’s optional, local, and private.

... yes but also

• open source,
• open model,
• all annotations done with proper respect to
  • labor law (ideally verified by 3rd party)
  • IP
• clear on ecological cost
  • CO2 eq in model card (ideally verified by 3rd party)
  • analogy non technical user can understand

... which makes for a rather limited list.

My own constraints https://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/CollaborationRelyingOnAI recommendations welcomed, both on such rules but also on models that do fit, if any.

I'm sorry, but it's not going to be. Mozilla set the stage of this when they changed from FOSS to source available.

I made this prediction right when this was announced.

Try Dillo. It is what web browsers should have been.

Ain’t ladybird the browser with project lead Andreas Kling? Well… I don’t know if I wanna be part of that.

No, but it’s still based on Chromium which killed off effective ad blocking.