The alternative to loving food is to eat as a necessity and seek to optimise it. Various combinations of industrialisation, the Protestant work ethic/disdain of unproductive hedonism, neoliberal financialisation of food production/distribution (hence the flavourless “water bomb” tomatoes that last longer in the supply chain, for example) and possibly endemic low-level depression could do this, to the point where the norm is just to get the necessary calories and a dopamine hit from some sugar/salt/fat and anything else seems suboptimal.
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I have met people in Britain who genuinely seem to hate food. They have a plain cheese sandwich, the worst imaginable bread or eat Huel every day.
That doesn't necessarily reflect all Britons, but I do think they genuinely care about food less on average than other cultures.
I hate food. It's hard to explain but it's kinda like most food triggers my fight or flight response. It takes me a lot of willpower to eat through a regular meal. As a kid I was severely underweight because I was always avoiding food. When I moved out I took the easier approach and started eating only the stuff that was easier to eat (mostly fried and dried stuff, and some ultra processed stuff like chips and cookies). I went from one end of the BMI table to the other in ~5 years.
Would be hard to chew properly with their misaligned teeth
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In my culture we had nothing but roadkill and weeds to eat, so we got really good at making stuff palatable. << Most cultural food legends.
Kenny must be dutch.
Dutchies eat to survive, no care at all about what it is they are eating…
They eat raw salted fish over there regularly (not like the French eating frog legs, which is rare and mostly just a meme today) and it does NOT look appetising... but who can deny stroopwafels and oliebollens? 😅
The fish is not raw, it's gibbed and cured. It's also eaten a lot in Germany and Scandinavia.
Also, we have vla in the Netherlands, and mustard soup! And we frown at people calling kale a super food, because it is considered one of the most generic winter foods over here.
I frown at people eating kale mixed in mashed potatoes or calling white bread with peanut butter a lunch.
Joke aside, the Dutch like good food and are way more open to other cuisines than most European countries.
People say that about food, music/dancing, and stories because they are the least antagonistic thing they could bring up while boasting about their culture. Its the least likely to get attacked as well, its a non-controversial aspect they can sing the praises of and its something easily shared
If they bring up their cultural religion, values, politics, philosophy, or social dynamics, suddenly things can become an area of controversy and even ethical debate. Most people are too fragile or cowardly to investigate that stuff.
I once saw a post where the guy said he was from Minnesota and he thought ketchup was too spicy.
I wanted to burn the heretic.
It’s definitely too strong a (sweet) flavor for me, but I just dislike adding sweet sauce to savory things. I also find barbecue and teriyaki sauce unpleasant for the same reason.
Chilies and spices are fine by me though, and tbf, I wouldn’t ever describe ketchup as spicy.
How do you know people like spicy food? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Yes, people in my culture often speak about the foods they enjoy.
Funny story. As a kid I'd laugh at my father, because he put black pepper on everything.
Today I have about nine different hot sauces on my spice rack.
If only it were actually “people often speak about the foods they enjoy” and not “you’re a weakling I love spicy everything’s spicy fuck not spicy” which is the reality for most morons.
Implying that ketchup is spicy at all?
Maybe it is spicy ketchup or something? I don’t know. People who judge others’ spice tolerance belong in prison.
I agree. But if I give you table sugar and you tell me it's spicy, then that's not a question of spice tolerance. You just don't know what the word spicy means.
Although, come to think of it, if you think ketchup is spicy, you may want to check if you're allergic to one of the ingredients. Regular ketchup is absolutely not spicy.
How do you know people don't like spicy food? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
I mean, I've had German and British food and I can confidently say it doesn't seem like they love food, lol.
I've had the pleasure of dining at one of Heston Blumenthal's restaurants and I can categorically say that it was the most wonderful dining experience of my life
You haven’t had the right german food then.
The Germans love their döner kebabs, possibly even more than the British love their chicken tikka masala
German food is underated. Apple strudel with vanilla sauce is amazing. Like a sweet lasagna. Genius!
I accidentally ordered a wurstsalat once. I have opinions after that expirence
At least mine had the decency to be in a dark pub hidden from the light
I don't think I've ever had bad food in Germany. In England my limited experience is mixed, some good, some bad and some interesting lunch choices like salted peanuts.
I could literally live on plain potatoes for the rest of my life and I’d be fine with it. My ancestors must have been as culinarily boring as possible.
Sounds like you've never had Finnish food
And then, even Englishmen look down on Scots who think oats porridge is human food.
My kind of people. “We see food as necessary but not really a key part of enjoying life”
I used to think that way in general, and personally I am still a bit like that. It's just one piece of figuring out how to get my brain & body to cooperate with me.
But something I have learned, for me at least, is that leaning into things that engage a variety of your senses in a positive way is often a good thing. And even better if it leads to good interactions with other people that matter to you (insert boo-hiss from my introverted recluse AuDHD side).
I think in the US especially, we often treat food as a necessary evil rather than just a necessity. People don't have time to waste on preparing healthy food and then eating it with their family. They need to focus on the "important things" like putting in long hours at the office so that they can afford to drive a BMW home instead of some pleb Honda shit. They'll just grab some fast food or something in a box that will fill stomachs provide some macros to sustain life in the near term, and everything will be just fine.
The alternative is thinking food is more important than working toward securing a house that you own, or paying off your student loans, or retraining yourself so you don’t go broke, or any number of other things. Food is cool but it’s just not all that.
Nah I don't think that's the alternative. It's not about dedicating your life to it. It's about allowing yourself some nice experiences to enhance your daily life even though you have very important bills to pay and can't just buy whatever food you want.
I didn't even comment because I'm some kind of cooking or dining enthusiast. It was more about the general attitude (which I very much grew up with) essentially that it is silly and self-indulgent to stop and smell the roses when there's money to be made or work to be done. Basically the conservative culture where being a good human means being a productive boot-licking worker bee and not getting into all that touchy-feely human stuff.
The thing is, I just don’t enjoy food that much. It’s not that enjoyable most of the time. If you’re eating the way your doctor wants you to it’s going to be unpleasant. It’s better to just treat it as a slog that it is instead of using it as an escape. Imo.
Yeah, there's some real truth to that, not gonna argue at all. With my ADHD and weak appetite I'll just forget to eat, or not want to eat in the first place.
But even with whatever I enjoy in moderation whether it's due to the excellent food or the environment (thinking holiday family dinners this time of year) or both, I don't look at it like an escape. It's just a nice enhancement to your day that engages your senses. In that way I think of the occasional amazing meal the same way I think of the occasional spirited drive home on a twisty road in beautiful weather with all the windows down.
However, I do want to acknowledge that we are all different and have to figure out what works for our particular brain given our experiences and environment. Food might just never be a contributor for you. And it's not a huge one for me either, but over the past few years I've learned to value and hold on to any little incremental positive life improvements I run into.
I feel like a lot of people are taking the post too literally (or maybe I’m not). I once knew a girl who posted a photo of her dad watching football on a plane captioned “Persian dads really need their football lol” and it’s like. That’s just a universal dad thing. Lots of dads in every culture do that.
Some people just do not think about cultures outside their own. Like, at all.
Certain things are constant across cultures. Among them: food, sports, and music.
And when I say "food", I mean beyond just biological sustenance. It's part of culture and an important part of social gatherings.
But the importance of food can be very different still. As a German I would say food is not a huge part of social culture. Like yes we eat together when we celebrate, but the food is usually just a necessity instead of the main focus
Some people just do not think about cultures outside their own. Like, at all.
Hey that IS my American culture!
The only thing that varies is the type of football. Looking at you America, but I think that is going to change very soon.
Wasn't there some variant of christians that considered the pleasure of eating a sin thus that area has dull food?
Bro has never been to England
Or a Presbyterian church service. I gotta give it to the Pentecostals, they might be a cult but at least they know how to party.
What about sis?
I admit, i made a bold assumption based on the name Kenny, but Ken is genderless, so my bad.
Or is from England and cannot imagine that a good food culture can mean more than: "I like the taste of some stuff and everyone else in my country consumes food too."



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