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[–] 28 points 11 months ago

Horrific. This is horrible, I hope the ambulance are able to help all the wounded. It's important that we do what we can, as a community, to help support those affected.

The heroic response from those around, including citizens and the police, probably saved many lives, and it's important that we recognise their courage.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    It's bad enough shit like this happens overseas. It's even worse that this can happen here, literally on the other side of the world.

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  • [+] -3 points 11 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    i don’t get how it’s not an australian issue for an australian to shoot a bunch of people in australia

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  • [+] -2 points 11 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Man you're not even correct on your claims.

    "The most populous states have the highest number of people doing shit" yeah it's called statistical probability.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You literally claimed this can't be a national problem because baawww two states.

    Those two states hold the majority of the population of the nation. Hell, their individual capital cities alone hold about double the entirety of WA. Combined, they make up over half the country - as in nearly 60% of our entire population. What friggin' metric do you need for something to be considered national?

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Fucking pussy little cunts, I hope that one in hospital survives so we can send him to our worst prison where he can live his life getting fucking beat the living fuck out of like the cowardly little bitch cunt he is.. the other one is dead, good fucking riddance.

    God I hope he survives so he can face the Consequences of being a bitch cunt.

    Lock him in a cell with some of our worst criminals and leave them be, Ohh after telling them what he did of course.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    I can’t find news that one is dead. Can you let me know what source you used please?

    Edit: found it. Yahoo news is reporting that one of the gunmen is dead, one in custody with ten others dead. ABC is reporting three dead, ten wounded, both gunmen in custody as at 8:23 pm Sydney time

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Whoever that guy was that disarmed one of the shooters should have free drinks at every single bar in Australia.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    ABC have since updated:

    Police media have confirmed to the ABC that 10 people have died in this evening's shooting at Bondi Beach, including one of the shooters and nine victims.

    Twelve people were also injured, including multiple police officers responding to the incident.

    A second shooter is among the injured, and is in custody.

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  • [+] -11 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    This attack occurred as our Jewish community came together at the Chanukah by the Sea celebration. This was a celebration of peace and hope for the future, severed by hate.

    This will surely help everyone to discontinue support for Israel and the violence in palestine will stop immediately.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    What does a bunch of Aussies enjoying a holiday at the beach have to do with Israel?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    It was for a Hanukkah celebration, there were a lot of Jewish people, and Israel has been working hard to equate Jewish with Israeli zionism

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    So are you saying a bunch of Aussies should not enjoy a holiday at the beach?

    Wait till you see what happens on Christmas Days! There's even thousands of tourists too!

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    @fizzle@quokk.au's sarcastic comment was in poor taste and probably went over the heads of a few people. I understand the sentiment behind the comment and I think l It was probably posted out of horror, frustration, anger at the news.

    I think @T00l_shed@lemmy.world may have been trying to help connect the dots for anyone who didn't understand what fizzle was going on about.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Not so much horror, frustration, and anger, as merely trying to understand the motivations of the perps. I genuinely want to understand more about that.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    So are you saying a bunch of Aussies should not enjoy a holiday at the beach

    If you can find where I said that, I would be fucking impressed

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Well the comment you replied to spoke about Aussies enjoying holidays on beaches. Your reply didn't address that at all. Therefore the obvious inference is that you may be against Aussies enjoying holidays on the beaches. I thought it was a very fair question.

    Irony, sarcasm and sometimes humour is not well transmitted on the internet, ay?

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  • [+] -38 points 11 months ago (22 children)

    If those 2 fuckers followed a peaceful ideology this wouldn't have happened.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    It's highly likely the guy.being hailed a hero for disarming one of the terrorists is Muslim.

    Eat shit racist prick.

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  • [+] -20 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    LOLOLOLOL. You are the one bringing islam to the discussion and projecting what you think about it but without the guts to say it.

    being hailed a hero for disarming one of the terrorists is Muslim.

    Here is your contradiction.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Figure it out. The same way you wouldn't waste your time arguing with flat earthers, I'm not going to waste my time discussing with whahabis. Both types of people are dumb and nothing i'll say will change their minds.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    Too cowardly to just openly say what you're trying to imply? You're already very openly bigoted, just explain the contradiction you're trying to point to. Say it plainly, and without trying to weasel around it.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    So you say it's irrelevant who saved who, in a conversation directly related to somebody stopping a shooter, then sarcastically call Islam a religion of peace when saying the shooters were Muslim "yet again", then accuse me of banning people which I don't do? What are you on about? You need to get your head checked mate.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Also if they weren't being fed antisemitic propaganda by the Israeli government and its supporters, conflating the nation-state currently committing genocide with an ethnoreligious group, in a deliberate attempt to cause exactly this sort of thing to happen.

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    What's the excuse? It's just a fact. Israel and it's supporters deliberately conflate the nation of Israel with the religion. That part is undeniable.

    If you're being charitable, it's because it allows them to brush off criticism of their genocide and apartheid state as being "antisemitic". If you're less charitable towards Israel's government and supporters, it's that, plus it has the added "bonus" of inflaming the kinds of actual antisemitism that help drive support for Israel's cause.

    The irony being of course that Israel's own stance is itself antisemitic, and as such it is the world's number one source of antisemitism.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They were not killed for being Israeli, because they weren't Israeli, they were Australian. They were killed because they were Jews. Obviously.

    You're making excuses for it and desperately trying to blame the victims because that's what antisemites do.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    I think that's their point - the Zionist movement intentionally tries to conflate Israel with Jewish people and with Judaism. For example, criticism of the country Israel and pro-Palestinean actions have generally been framed by Zionist groups as an attack on Jewish people, rather than an attack on a country and its actions.

    This uses Jewish people as a shield for the actions of Zionism, and encourages antisemitism as a result. When some mass media news, social media influencers and racist agitators (e.g. neo-Nazis) all try to associate regular Jewish locals with the atrocities of Israel, this scapegoating puts all Jewish people (even those who are anti-Israel) in danger of indiscriminate attack.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    No, they were killed because the murderers fell for the Israeli antisemitic lie. The idea that all actions of Israel are necessarily representative of all Jews. The same lie that you are spreading here by assuming that because the victims were Jews, and because I put a portion of the blame on Israel, I must be blaming the victims. Even though the victims' position on Israel is not known.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    ah ok, what’s your reasoning for this one?

    German authorities are suspecting that the attack plans were based on an Islamist motive and that it would be carried out by car. The suspects include a 56-year-old Egyptian, a 37-year-old Syrian and three Moroccans aged 22, 28 and 30.

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-5-arrested-for-suspected-christmas-market-plot/a-75148071

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Hard to know what these cunts we're thinking. But we can guess that with their nutty religious perspective, they see everything in terms of religion. The U.S. is a Christian power that enables Israel. So Christians and Christmas could be legit revenge targets in their eyes. Who knows?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    No, of course not a fucking excuse, but a distinct possibility if you coldly consider which entities could possibly benefit from a violent attack on civilian Jewish community.

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's all Biden's fault . If Biden didn't falsely imprison all the Jan 6 freedom fighters and let in terrorists at the borders Trump wouldn't have to have ICE

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  • [+] -79 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    But that's impossible! Guns are illegal in Australia! Everybody knows, once you ban all the guns, that immediately and permanently stops all gun violence from happening, ever!

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Ten people dead and you want to "pwn the libs"

    You're a goddamn embarrassment to the species

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    How many mass shootings in Australia in the past decade can you look up?

    How many in the US have happened in the past month? Or better yet, the past week?

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    One of the perpetrators had 6 registered firearms. A frankly ridiculous amount for one person to have. Further proof that access to deadly weapons is… oh, I don’t know, maybe just possibly a bad thing that should be tightly regulated.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    To be fair to legitrimate shooters, if you're a farmer or game shooter you'll need different firearms. It's a bit like owning six different sized spanners. The number of guns isn't the issue, it's the use.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Are you paid by the NRA or are you just being a dumbarse cockhead NRA schill for free?

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    They're not wrong, though. Banning things doesn't stop people from obtaining them. See: abortions and cannabis.

    Also fuck the NRA.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Coincidentally, they are wrong (the guns were legally owned), but it doesn't even matter. They're coming into a grieving community to sarcastically troll about US gun legislation using some ridiculous strawman argument.

    So they can get fucked.

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