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[–] 75 points 11 months ago

People will die from a preventable disease because of abject stupidity

If their ignorance only harmed themselves, then I'd celebrate it, but unfortunately there are vulnerable, innocent people who will also suffer

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  • [–] 60 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    The R in RFK stands for rubella!

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    AKA German Measels.

    I have no idea why I know that.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    And it is called Rubella after the latin "Little Red" after the rash associated with the disease.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Worst drivers in the entire country and some of the worst roads plus Lindsay Graham. Now measles at church, too? God hates South Carolinians.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You die, get reborn and because you had committed enough sins in the previous life ... you are reborn in South Carolina

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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    Having been to the South during covid their β€œquarantine” was pretty much business as usual. They tucked their masks in their pockets. I’m sure it’s similar for those around the infectious ones.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    When conservatives felt impervious to infection, they were very cavalier. But those masks came out like lightning the moment someone started coughing.

    I seriously doubt anyone showing full blown measles symptoms is welcome in school or at the office. The xenophobes in the GOP probably don't want them anywhere near hospitals or churches either.

    Now, prisons? That's a great place to put sick people.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    An anti vax mom i used to work for told me once she wouldn't mind if her kids got measles just so everyone would realize it's not such a big deal. Maybe she won't feel so cavalier now that her kids aren't as protected by herd immunity, or maybe she'll continue just being dumb as rocks.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    Yeah. I had a coworker who doggedly insisted COVID wasn't any worse than the flu. Spouted all the classic right-wing talking points. Complained that the economy was suffering because of Woke. Yadda-yadda.

    That was right up until Houston got hit with a big outbreak, at which point he demanded he be allowed to work from home because of his compromised immune system.

    After the release of the vaccine and return to the office, he was right back on the "COVID isn't a big deal" hobby horse.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    Remember when we didn’t have to worry about this?…. It’s like there is a preventable medication or something.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Of the 111 outbreak cases, 105 were unvaccinated, three were partially vaccinated, two had an unknown status, and one case was fully vaccinated.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago

    Hopefully one day we find a way to eradicate diseases and conditions like these.

    /s

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    What if quarantine causes autism?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I grew up in Spartanburg, SC and find this unsurprising.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I caught measles as a kid. I wasn't vaccinated. I don't know if my mother was antvax then, but she's definitely a crazy level, anti Vax (and many other conspiracy follower) theorist, now.

    I thought I was going to die. Some 40 years later I remember it like it was yesterday, it was a horrific thing to do to a child, especially when meditation to ease it was available. I doubt I'll ever forgive my mother for that level of evil. She didn't care, either.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    You get what you pick. Carolinas, other than Ashville, are daft af.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I feel bad for the people infected that didn’t act like dumb assess about vaccines.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago
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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I don't like this clone wars episode.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That was a semi-ok episode. I liked that it was based on Geonosis

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Oh I think it's a solid episode as well. It also makes me angry because it reminds me that we never got a clone wars era Death Troopers book, we got it in two other major eras but nope no clone wars. Also would've been neat to get a post endor or legacy era book.

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  • [–] 68 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    We need some kind of vaccine to make sure this kind of thing doesn't happen to people. Maybe we could combine it with a mumps and rubella inoculation?

    I mean, it won't bother me. I'm already neurodiverse. So, vaccines only make me stronger.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You watch too much sci-fi dreamer

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's just as implausible as vaccines causing autism. So, I had some fun with it, presuming you're calling me a "dreamer" and you're not referring to something called "sci-fi dreamer."

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  • [–] 53 points 11 months ago

    It used to be patriotic to be vaccinated

    Which really emphasizes how these are actual traitors

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago

    Have the day you didn’t vaccinate for.

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  • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    A completely preventable disease, and here we are.

    All because we have so many stupid people in this country...if Democrats ever get a decent majority, I hope they bring back vaccination requirements with a vengeance, and for public schools and working in hospitals and things like the military and so on, close the loopholes for people that have "religious" objections to basic science and medicine.

    Don't like it? Too bad. Citizenship also comes with responsibilities.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I dont really know what the solution is.

    The harder you mandate it, the more people will get nutty about it.

    I do feel that anti-vax nutters are internalising the benefits of vaccinations (by benefiting from herd immunity) but externalising the risks (by enjoying healthcare when they get sick).

    In Australia unvaccinated kids dont get government support for things like day care or parenting payments et cetera.

    I employed a young woman who was earning $700 a week buy paying $500 a week for day care because they refused to vaccinated her. They were living on the husband's salary. It seemed pretty bleak to me.

    Like in Australia you need to save every dollar to buy a house or retire. Sure you can have a few baubles but no one can afford $25k a year for this kind of idiocy.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    I dont really know what the solution is.

    One I can think of is that we need to start penalizing people legally, societally, or both for spreading lies and misinformation again.

    There's no downside and lots of upside to just firehosing everyone with bullshit nowadays.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    The harder you mandate it, the more people will get nutty about it.

    I don't know that for sure. We had decades of norms long before this shit started in the 90s. Those norms resulted in most people not really even questioning it. Sure, you always had a few on the fringes like the Amish and Mennonites, but they also have minimum contact with the public anyway...

    I think the craziness probably resulted from -

    1. Primarily - vaccines being a victim of their own success, ironically, along with the way the culture pushes aside older people and the wisdom they may have. People don't see these diseases and their effects and assume, incorrectly, that they don't need to vaccinate. Older generations that did see this and were/are still around are largely ignored by some of the younger generations, probably mostly really getting going with younger Gen Xers, and getting progressively worse with younger and younger generations. It's all too natural for every generation to think they are uniquely different than everything that came before, most especially when they are young. Even in the 20th century, marketing and advertising has always made this narcissistic tendency of the young worse than it already is, but now with the atomization of everything and narrowcasting of so much content, this has been weaponized to an extent never seen before. The more ignorant and younger populations get anecdotes from others about how they didn't vaccinate and didn't get sick and instead of knowing that is because of everyone else doing their work for them (herd immunity), they think it's because they are not really needed. I remember my grandmother (Greatest generation) and mother (boomer) both getting quite annoyed when they started to see this phenomenon in the 90s. They were both nurses, and this royally pissed them off, and rightfully so, because this kind of ignorance among the young is dangerous. But again, the culture, now more than ever, worships the young. Old people are to be ignored and mocked, never learned from. Saying old people are just "stuck in their ways" is used to dismiss any wisdom that might be passed on. So here we are...my mother and grandmother are both now gone, and I guess one blessing about that is that they don't have to watch this clusterfuck unfold.

    2. I think the 'net is partly to blame. People with like interests can find each other and start really maximizing those interests, which includes nutty conspiracy theories and anti-intellectualism. It's not like it's all high-minded scientists and intellectuals are the only ones finding each other...the nutbars find each other and probably work to push each other's Overton window to even further extremes.

    3. The phenomenon of more people being diagnosed as on the spectrum. People wanted something to blame. Even if the more obvious answer might be that screening has changed over time, at least some people felt that vaccines were the real reason...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    The 1st Amendment means we don't recognize religion in government policy, so if the religious freaks don't want to follow the law, they can pack back up into the Mayflower, and find another landmass to live. May I suggest Antarctica.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Five years ago, I felt like ultra-liberal Portland Oregon was awfully vaccine hesitant. I believe it may have shifted as a reaction to Trump 2.0 and Covid, but a lot of what I think of as anti-science still exists. But at least democrats don’t put RFK in charge of vaccines.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I definitely do see pockets of this among liberals in my anecdotal experience, going back to the 90s. Prior to that, other than Amish and Mennonites, I never really heard of people being anti-vaxx.

    One thing I did notice is that older liberals (boomer age) would openly mock the younger liberals that were doing the "I'm not vaccinating my kids" thing. I think that is because some of them may have seen or heard things and it stuck. A lived experience/wisdom kind of thing. If you were old enough to see or hear about the situation before vaccines, you were old enough to know better and that younger people were just being morons. Listening to a centerfold when it comes to autism and vaccines instead of, you know, actual experts.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Alright, cool. Now lets take a tally of anti-vaxxers among the infected.

    How's THAT working for ya? Oh, me? I'm fine. I'm sitting over here in public, without measles. You know, on account of how I'm not an idiot?

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    What’s the over/under on Polio for 2026?

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    Are you lumping yourself in with anti-vax South Carolinans with that "we"? Because I sure as fuck am not.

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    Why pick that border to respect? Do you have political influence in South Carolina? Was your state one of the handful that hasn't voted the same way in every presidential election of the last forty years? Is your senator a Republican in a district that could have gone either way if you had personally mobilized a couple dozen non-voters?

    Because I sure fucking don't fit into any of those buckets so leave me out of your "we".

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    Look man suit yourself, but I'm an American living in America so I'm in the we here.

    The problem of dividing up the states into red and blue America and disassociating with everyone that falls into the other camp is that regionality doesn't save you from anything. Rhetoric doesn't save you from anything.

    There are pro-vaccination people in red states and there are anti-vax morons in blue states. Trump is president of all of them and RFK, Jr. runs the department overseeing disease control federally, not just for South Carolina.

    I live in California and there are many Californians that were instrumental in pushing the nonsense that landed us here. Orange county is a hotbed of anti-vax morons. I am a citizen of this country, and this country is full of stupid idiots. We are stupid idiots. Collectively.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    We're all humans of Earth too but I can only work on my little pocket of it. I'm no more responsible for what happens in Senegal than I am for Texas or Florida or Pennsylvania.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    Eh, people that live in Senegal aren't your compatriots unless you live in Senegal.

    I understand the desire to dissociate. It's the easiest option. But we as a country are still fucked regardless.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck my "compatriots", nations are made up and the geopolitical lines do not matter to me. I do not care more for someone because they are born or reside in the same country as me. The country as an entity can also get fucked, it's too big and built on death and greed.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    The country as an entity can also get fucked, it’s too big and built on death and greed.

    I mean if the country "gets fucked" you'd get fucked with it...which is most of the point.

    People love to pretend to be little sovereign citizens here, but like it or not you're part of a larger thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Fall of Rome shit

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    Measles scares the crap out of me. Not only can you die or get serious complications from the initial infection but there's this super scary disease you can get years later when the virus reawakens. The disease is called Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis (SSPE) and it has a 95% fatality rate. 95! That's extremely scary and only makes me more relieved I've been vaccinated. The fact it's entirely preventable yet is making the rounds again in the US due to a corrupt and inherently stupid excuse of an administration is infuriating

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    Quarantine is so much easier than a vaccination. /s

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    I'm not afraid of measles because I have an immune system!

    That I boosted by getting the fucking MMR shot!

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    [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    If only we had some way to prevent these outbreaks.

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