I'm a man, and I don't like it when the behaviour of Musk is viewed as typical men behaviour.
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I disagree, as a man, I would expose the shit out of any other person I knew was doing that shit.
When a man does this shit he increases the perception of all men being seen as possible predators and terrible people.
A man does not do this, a man stands up for what is right, and if they don't, they are no man.
I normally cringe to see "as a man.." comments but this is incredibly sexist and it's understandable to have something to say when you're getting accused of habitually defending rapists. Kind of disappointed to see it posted here
I appreciate your sacrifice, as someone who posted "as a man".
Sexism is bad. Doesn't matter who is on the receiving end. It's still bad.
Yeah, this one is a step too far for me. Instead of attributing his behavior to his well-established narcissism and power hungry freak behavior, he didn't call Trump out because....he's a man?? His identity as a piece of shit takes precedence here, not his gender.
OP is one of the nicest individuals on this platform so I'm very, very surprised by this post
I'd replace men with narcissists because 100% of narcissists act like they don't know morals when it hits them in the face because they want to exploit and benefit from immoral and corrupt situations any way they can.
I wouldn't be surprised if the venn diagram between narcissism and sociopathy is a near circle.
I would merge narcissists with predators like, we don't have a lot of strong evidence that Elon Musk is a predator of any particular type, but there's something going on there.
His actions are not the actions that you take when you have a clean conscience.
I would call his space base or whatever a predatory colonization of Boca Chica. His companies hire new grads, burn them out, then dump them the second they slow. Plenty of stories of abuse and racism in Tesla factories. Strong-arming his ex wives over custody battles.
He's a predator, just maybe(as far as we know) not of the typical sexual variety.
I love being likened to a psychopath (or whatever shit Musk is) just because we both have balls.
Thanks, I hate it.
I disagree as a man, it is not reflecting gender it is reflecting personality. This is how narcists and ego maniacs behave - and powerful people often fall into that category. Men and women.
Didn’t even reveal Trump as a child rapist. It’s just a go-to thing for that immature fool. Remember when kids were trapped in a cave, he tried to get them to use his magic robots to rescue them, and the experienced cave-diving rescuer said that would be a disaster? Suddenly the rescuer became a child rapist.
Trump may be, but Musk doesn’t know one way or the other. He’s just hurt and immature and hurling playground insults.
I still remember watching what I will call a "hype channel" on YT, talk about Musk being an entrepreneur as if that put him in some kind of authority, that put a bad taste in my mouth, then the whole Hyperloop shit started, and as a railway enthusiast, I just could not see the system working as described, then I started seeing Tesla customers volunteering at Tesla delivery locations to help new customers which felt very culty, and that helped me spot the Musk cult easier, all while my dislike for him grew
Yeah, I disliked Musk before the cave rescue shitstorm, but that turned my dislike into pure contempt.
This tweet sounds like it's from an incel
Hey. As a man, I resent being lumped in with Elon on this.
The whole "but they do the bad thing" is a what about-ism; and many of us don't associate with people who we need to do mental gymnastics to justify their actions.
If I had a friend or acquaintance who was a child r*pist, I would have one less friend or acquaintances the day I found that out. I don't need anyone in my life that I have to justify their actions because of how shitty they actually are. My life is complicated, and/or, difficult enough... I don't need people in it that add to that with their drama and/or felony criminal activity. I don't care how "important" or "influential" they are, I will just remove myself from the situation and politely decline any future interactions with that individual regardless of all other factors.
Since I started abiding by this philosophy, I've lost more "friends" than I care to count, but the friends I still have, are people actually worth knowing. They're people who make me better as a person. I hope they feel the same about me, but that's entirely up to them to make a decision about.
In any case. Generalizing an entire gender because of the actions of one dude? Not cool. That would be like if I based my opinions on women off of the example set by someone like Carla Homolka. First of all, fuck that bitch and the horse she rode in on; she should eat the curb for the horrors she has committed; but also, she is not an example by which anyone should base an opinion on, about women in general.
Elon may be arguably less horrible than Homolka, but I think I've made my point.
Why men can't be taken seriously you mean? I don't know who this Carla Homolka person is, but if you had a post comparing every woman to their actions on the basis of their sex I'm pretty sure you would get women defending themselves in exactly the same way (assuming this person did something terrible from context).
I'm not sure how you don't see that using "you people" in this way is acceptable in generalizing any other group. There's definitely a pass, socially, when aiming those words at men. Ask yourself why that is.
If I'm being charitable to the person who wrote this. They mean that it's a thing done by men, but they didn't say all mean. I'd argue it's men like him, except one point. It's not just men. There are women who enable this too. Remember, Jeffery Epstein's right hand man, was a woman.
All the same, I think? Being hypocritical doesn't make either behaviour less bad or people's feelings invalid
Yes, all the same exactly - speficially when you can't curb yourself from exposing your low instincts in the very same sentence.
What is "speficially"?
Who's low instincts?
How does that make a difference?
No I'm unable to decipher, you're not making a lot of sense
It could be mine, but you could also be referring to op's post. It's not quite clear, hence the question
Ah, ye, I get that. It's not about relating. I think everyone has a right to their own feelings and opinions regardless of the person they are themselves. For example, just because someone drives a car doesn't mean they're required to pretend climate change is a hoax. And their insight can still be helpful. Even if it doesn't paint them in the very best light for the particular subject
I have a pretty low bar for posts from a comm called "witches vs patriarchy" and this still doesn't reach it. Get the fuck out with this trash.
Locking this post as we've recieved reports of misandry in which I've personally also addressed in the comments.
I believe and would like to also encourage calling out garbage people without using misandry/misogyny.
Elon is a man and an asshole. Those are separate issues. Most people, men and women, are not that selfish and childish.
It's unfortunate that assholes do tend to be a loud minority among men
Not all men.
But still, way too many men.
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