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Desktop PTSD (lemmy.zip)
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alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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[–] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

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    • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

    when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

    they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Is there, but it’s behind shortcut keys, gestures, right clicks, or force presses.

    There’s also a bunch of tricks that become second nature, especially on smaller laptops. The trackpads really make windowing less of a hassle. I just swipe around and occasionally zoom out on an app (which shows all windows) largely without thinking.

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    • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Aerospace or yabai

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    • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because like most things made for power users: it confuses and terrifies regular users.

    Seriously, even with something as simple as Fancy Zones, regular users would get frustrated when they move a window while accidentally or purposely holding shift and their window reshapes itself.

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    • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

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    • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

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    [+] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I use Rectangle whenever I need to do some tiling go decent effect.

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    • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    This me. Gonna set up RDP and just remote in from my desktop. I'd rather find a new job than be that unproductive.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    "Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

    Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I'm not clear on what the distinction is that you're referring to. How are the Linux window managers different than the win/mac ones?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Window managers in Linux take direct command from the display server (Xorg, Wayland, etc.) to decide where to position windows and what they should look like. Whereas "window managers" on MacOS/Windows are tricking the original window manager provided by the OS into positioning windows a certain way. I'm simplifying here, but hope that clears things up.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    You mean like Windows registry which determines how the windows need to be managed, just like almost every other program running on Windows?

    Your explanation still doesn't differentiate.

    Or do you claim Linux calls home to some rando server to get the information on how a window should be displayed? Because that doesn't seem like a great feature at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

    • Stacking (aka floating) window managers provide the traditional desktop metaphor used in commercial operating systems like Windows and macOS. Windows act like pieces of paper on a desk, and can be stacked on top of each other. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Stacking window managers.
    • Tiling window managers "tile" the windows so that none are overlapping. They usually make very extensive use of key-bindings and have less (or no) reliance on the mouse. Tiling window managers may be manual, offer predefined layouts, or both. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Tiling window managers.
    • Dynamic window managers can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Dynamic window managers.

    Mac and Windows window managers aren't different from Linux window managers. (Other than being difficult or impossible to replace). What you are calling "window managers" are software that reposition the windows after the actual window manager has positioned it.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I know there are, the point is to show that FOSS window managers users moved away from commercial enshittified desktop experiemce and are traumatized by it. Basically laughing at my own experiemce with desktop environments.

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    • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It’s true, I’m completely broken. I can’t even use a stacking window manager on Linux, I’m instantly pissed off

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    BSPWM + lxqt/ xfce (lxqt recommended)

    You'll also need SXHKD for better and easier shortcut handling

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Linux developers can't name their products any better than they name their variables.

    "Programming done, time to publish, now it just needs a name..." briefly pauses, then smashes face into keyboard... "There! ... ehh, no, still missing something." clicks random spot, types X... "Perfect! Send it!"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No Cunts Music Player (written in) C Plus Plus. that's my guess

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It did make sense at one point. They implemented a music player with a daemon part and a client part, so from that you had the mpd server and mpc client. Someone wrote an ncurses frontend for the client, naturally called ncmpc. Iirc that person abandoned it and someone else took over with a new iteration. ncmpcpp. But it really is a bad name.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Will it work with KDE?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    On KDE, I'd recommend getting a KWin Script for tiling. Krohnkite is what people use currently.

    It's not as buttery smooth as dedicated tiling window managers and it can be a bit glitchy at times, but it is better than one might expect and significantly easier (and likely less glitchy) than trying to get bspwm to work in Plasma.

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    • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Can confirm

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The reverse for me lol. Mouse-heavy user here

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Too real. Haven’t used Windows in over 20 years. New job has locked down SOE laptops. I’m not even allowed to install putty without permission.

    I use niri btw.

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    [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I landed on using HammerSpoon on Mac with a script library to tile the windows. Certain apps take a moment to resize but it generally works. It's still not a completely mouse-less experience.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    yabai on mac is the most wm like experience

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