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[+] 272 points 11 months ago (36 children)
  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    ... and full of karma bots

    ... and using use input to train LLMs

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Not antagonistically speaking here.

    Do you think your input is not being used to train LLMs when posting on Lemmy? It's publicly visible without an account.

    I'd be shocked if there wasn't either a scraper, or a whole federated instance, that was harvesting lemmy comments for the big ai companies.

    The only difference is that no one is trying to make money off providing that content to them. A big part of the reddit exodus was that reddit started charging for api calls to make cash off the AI feeding frenzy, which broke tools the users liked. With lemmy, there's no need for a rent-seeking middle man.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    For sure and it's frustrating knowing every post I make anywhere is being used to train LLMs generally, but as you mentioned reddit was particularly egregious about it, picked a specific partner(s) for it, and focused on monetizing their users' content.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I notice because people are fishing for karma point there are a lot less pointless posts on Lemmy than Reddit. Some people post questions that Google Search & Ai can answer faster. I understand asking if you looking for an opinion. IDK I kike it here.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (30 children)

    same. only a matter of time till it happens here too

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    The differences is that you have the power to make a new community or Lemmy site with blackjack and hookers. (Piefed is kind of like that for people unhappy with the Lemmy software or developers.)

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Kind of. I don't think the Internet will ever return to the heyday of Reddit.

    Once governments and groups recognized that social media actually does move public opinion, that was the end of good, anonymous social media.

    The ways to bring some of that back aren't great. A community where everyone's verified is much better, but it'll be quite different from the Reddit days where you'd have (usually real) ridiculous subject matter experts chiming in on random threads.

    You don't get that with a small, verified population. And when you don't have verification, well forever now have effectively psyops intending to influence you.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    Well we can assume political discussions have a lot of psyops and people with agendas. I appreciate that many of the loudest voices/posters make it very obvious ;)

    Some of the craziest niches aren't on here (like if you clean sewers and septic tanks, DM me, you ought to do an AMA) but I have encountered people replying on mostly tech related topics on programming, linux, asklemmy, no stupid Qs where someone with niche tech knowledge did answer (i couldn't find the original comment link, sorry). My knowledge is in trains, electricity, Japanese and Japanese electric trains, you can ask me about.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    How is piefed going? It looks like a really great alternative.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago

    that for people unhappy with the Lemmy software or developers

    So piefed is the software where the anti-commie zionist nazi's are fleeing to to escape the evil communist devs of lemmy? Good to know!

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  • [+] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm just going to leave that to the self-fellating elephants.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Its kind of already happening here - just for different reasons.

    There is very little engagement on Lemmy besides in a few communities. What little engagement there is - is driven by a few users.

    Even broad conversion topics get very little engagement.

    I get not everyone wants to be a topic "starter" (i know I don't), but they can't even bother to either:

    1: just post a tiny comment (look at "what are you watching" in the movies / TV subs on piefed.Social; seems like a real easy topic for anyone to engage in and yet there's only ever like 10 posts and zero upvotes)

    2: upvote topics or posts; While the points don't matter - they still show and promote engagement.

    Its honestly rather frustrating.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    I'd note that the same phenomenon exists on Reddit. You'd be surprised how many subreddits on a site much larger are maintained purely by the power of a few posters who feed the community with posts.

    I'd also argue that television and movies on piefed.social, per activity, are much more active than what you suggest there.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    If you really want a community to take off, you have to basically schedule yourself to make content there.

    The lessons from every group I've grown (and haven't) is that consistency is key. You have to develop the habit in other people, and it might take a long time to start.

    If you want to be a Twitch streamer, for instance, you have to do it at the same time every day.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    There seems to be more discussion here if Linux, open source etc & not just the pointless questions that Google can answer. More conversations I enjoy reading responses and opinions. IDK I'm a noob & I like it here.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I've just recently moved, and I barely see any difference. Same US politics dawn to dusk, just more Linux and commies.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Block those communities if you don't want to see them. They won't be hurt because they won't know.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    There's some nuance in that

    a) I treat US politics as entertainment for the last ten years — seeing Trump crush over Mamdani, are you kidding, it's top kek;

    b) I like to know the zeitgeist on the platform where I spend time;

    and c) US politics are in almost every major community anyway, regardless of its topic — just like on Reddit.

    I wouldn't mind not seeing twenty posts about Peter Whatshisname Kegsbreath missile-ing Venezuelan fishermen. I got it the first time.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Voat was setup to be a one-to-one clone of reddit, minus any moderation and it failed because it was one-to-one. Lemmy/federation is functionally different.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    It failed because apparently the only people who left were right wing nuts so the only content they had was right wing shit. There's at least some Linux on lemmy...

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    oh thats rich- have you thought about how it's essentially criminal to post about what you just posted about instead of making a post about how you are pessimistic about one of the problems facing humanity??????

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  • [+] -19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    Matter of time?? The libs of reddit have been infesting here for awhile now

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    They mean a liberal.

    .ML is a instance for people who support Russia. So they hate anything to do with progressive ideas.

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  • [–] 98 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Life's hard enough as it is, one has to practice self love.

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  • [–] 45 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Seriously, who wouldn't do this if we could?

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    As someone who was more flexible as a teenager, let me tell you that it feels a lot more like performing the act, rather than having the act performed on you.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Okay, so, I've heard this before, which leads me to ask this completely earnest question out of genuine scientific curiosity, but have you ever sucked a dick that wasn't your own?

    Because I can't imagine someone with no inclination would like it very much. Ergonomically and logististically — it's a bitch, and harder to jive with sans any experience in the field. On the other hand someone who enjoys sucking dick on the regular might get more out of the activity.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I like sucking dick but I also know there are a lot of people with dicks who don't and one of the things I've heard from people who have succeeded performing autofellatio is that it feels more like sucking a dick than it does getting your dick sucked. Honestly, hearing this just makes me want to do it more.

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  • [+] 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    He can't it has a giant elephant dick in it

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The difference between Reddit and Lemmy is that you can post this without getting shadowed banned

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    But that's Mastodon's mascot!

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    Man, y'all are wrong. People on both platforms be stupid as hell. Myself included.

    What was I talkin' about?

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago

    If I could do that I wouldnt be wasting my time here.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    To be honest, I need something more substantial, but I haven't found where to go after we lost forums

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    I have something more substantial...

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The irony is that reddit users would say the same about other people on other platforms.

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  • [+] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You don't have both a nose and dangle long enough? Please answer us that you do not regardless of your bait and tackle situation, I'm not feeling like getting jealous

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I do feel like I have more authentic interactions on here. It's hard not to see how much more heavily a huge platform like reddit is botted and astroturfed, and controlled by a handful of owners, mods and powerusers, compared to the nascent fediverse. Not that we don't have those things here too, I think Lemmy just hasn't had a high enough profile, yet, to warrant much attention from the same bad actors who run vast portions of reddit, X, and facebook. Here's hoping it stays that way for a little while longer.

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  • [+] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    I'm new here but this reminds me a lot of what reddit was like around 2008. I and lots of people came from slashdot, to be able to talk about things other than computers. So everyone is a nerd that cares about data and wants to have a genuine conversation, and I think that makes my experience more intelligent because it becomes less about winning by drowning interesting topics with the same rehashed jokes or tropes, and more about formulating your own thoughts as best you can.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You think if I could do that I'd be here?

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Tbf biggest reddit communuties are gaming ones and biggest lemmu communities are programming ones.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    A decade ago, My nephew asked me what my Reddit name was. He was 9 years old. I looked at his old comments, and he was a pretty active Redditor on gaming subreddits.

    It was then that I stopped trusting the numbers of comments on posts as a signal of quality.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Tbf, a lemmy user is far less likely to be a bot, so... yes?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Mini rant: that’s the #1 thing I was getting sick of before exiting Reddit. It was at the point where the larger subs, think memes or technology, were all reposts of high performing posts that bots were posting. Then they’d use other bot accounts to steal the highest performing comments from under the same picture/article.

    The amount of times I’d see the same post 10 times, with the same top comments all from different accounts that all cross posted between each other because they were a part of the same network was crazy. The bot population was insane at the time I left.

    I’m not even talking about regular reposts which I actually do like. (I think there’s an XKCD about post exposure?) I’m talking about coordinated karma farms that would spam the hell out of the place.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm sure there is a Mastodon joke in there somewhere.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Colonial Americans saying they’re smarter than the British.

    “Dude, you were British, we all were!”

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Smart enough to stop being British

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    points at the usa president in 2025

    Smart? Not even remotely.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago*

    Uhm... the brits have a long string of horribly incompetent (and evil) PMs and the royal family is the same level of inbred rapers of children so...

    Let's not try to compare the two and acknowledge we are both horrifically imperialist nations with self destructive tendencies who just happen to be at different points on the curve.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    points at brexit

    buddy this is a race to the bottom

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