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[–] 9 points 11 months ago*

Sound more like voluntold than voluntary to me.

New EU agency planned

In the risk analysis, providers must check whether their services can be misused for the dissemination of abuse material or for contacting children. There are to be three categories for this: high, medium, and low risk. Providers in the highest category could be obliged to participate in the development of risk mitigation technologies.

Counterpoint:

Reality Check: EU Council Chat Control Vote is Not a Retreat, But a Green Light for Indiscriminate Mass Surveillance and the End of Right to Communicate Anonymously

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    [–] 89 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    This is framing. I live in the Netherlands, who voted against this version of ChatControl light. Messenger apps are now allowed not nog forced to scan messages and report incidents (mostly aimed at child pornography i understand).

    Sounds good maybe, but here it is feared that scanning PRIVATE messages is normalised in this way, and will be made compulsary in the future.

    So all things considered a bad fucking day for privacy. If anything the EU moves back to ChatControl after the initial version was rejected (rightly so in my opionion.)

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    [–] 54 points 11 months ago

    This is framing. They back away from forcing companies offensively, now they tell them they got to implement technology to protect against it.

    It's less clear what the hell now happens, but threatens companies if they don't implement something. The result will now be the same but the marketing is easier, and that's clearly the goal.

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago

    Under the new rules, online service providers must assess the risk that their services could be misused to spread depictions of child sexual abuse or to contact children. Based on this assessment, they must take measures to mitigate this risk.

    (Emphasis mine)

    That is not actually voluntary. The drafters of this bill are playing wordgames to trick committee members into passing mandatory chat scanning.

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    “We and our up to 188 partners use cookies and tracking technologies.”

    Nope!

    http://archive.today/KhL08

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    … bit just for now, I'm afraid.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    The strategy is to keep proposing this bullshit until the public gets tired of raising an outcry every time. Once it's been proposed and abandoned a dozen times, nobody takes it seriously, then they can pass it without too much resistance.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago*

    No, they have not. More accurate to say they are going ahead regardless of what the people wants.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Good fucking news for once

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    [–] 25 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    yeah ok forgive me if I don't fucking believe that for a second

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago

    Yea it's bullshit. They want to build the whole thing as 'voluntary" which will last only until it's in place and then some manufactured satanic-panik will make it "mandatory"

    This is a ploy to build the system now and flip the switch later.

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    Even if it were true, they are pushing for age restrictions on social media which would probably have very similar effects

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    [–] 59 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Until next time, probably in a couple of weeks.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    The lobbyists of multinational surveillance capitalism oligarchs just have to make a few tweaks and bribes to have one of their operatives in the political class resubmit.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Holy shit I opened the webpage and I was stunned with a ad thingy with no button to Decline all but instead with a setting page. Why are sites like this now. At least they ask instead of just doing it without consent, that's a plus.

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    [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    The title is misleading.

    This is still happening, unfortunately, even using the same excuse of child exploitation as always. The main mass-surveillance and age verifications are still in there.

    from https://fightchatcontrol.eu/:

    Thanks to public pressure, the Danish Presidency has been forced to revise its text, explicitly stating that any detection obligations are voluntary. While much better, the text continues to both (a) effectively outlaw anonymous communication through mandatory age verification; and (b) include planned voluntary mass scannings. The Council is expected to formally adopt its position on Chat Control the 18th or 19th of November. Trilogue with the European Parliament will commence soon after.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is the first good news in weeks, thanks Europe

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    This is not good news, rather a temporary lack of bad news. This shit has been tries like 10 times already, and I bet it will be tried again and again until it passes in some form.

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