This changes nothing. Spend that political capital lefties. Lord knows the people in washington refuse to. You couldnt force me at gun point to support the GOP.

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[–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Trump is using the military to occupy a city that hates him. He wants to deport a lot of people, but the city isn't having it so protests have emerged.

    From what I've seen, four self driving taxies was burned (the car on the image) by protestors, while the police intentionally shot a news reporter, used a horse to trample a detained protestor, and has deployed marines to the streets.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Its not that they're self driving; it's that they're covered in cameras and the cops have live access.

    Edit: and apparently root access to the whole car.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's worse than that. The waymos were originally ordered by protesters wishing to leave the area. Sheriff didn't like that, so they asked waymo directly to lock down the cars so they couldn't be used to "flee the area". Waymo complied and stranded people in the middle of this mess, and the crowd decided to help them out and express their displeasure at waymo for capitulation to the gestapo. I hope whatever insurance waymo has denies all their claims and forces them to eat the loss.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have not seen this information anywhere, it should be brought to attention more.

    Everywhere it is "rioters ordered the waymos, they arrived empty and then were set on fire".

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Technically correct, but definitely missing context. I picked it up watching FilmThePoliceLA Sunday when he was talking to people around the waymos before thy were set on fire.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Saw news report claiming the deportation was a rumor, the op never happened. Lemmy shows otherwise, what's real?

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  • [–] 74 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.

    Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Thank you. I have no idea what happened to LA this past few days, i know there's a protest and there's police violence against protestors and there's chaos, beyond that i'm very much in the dark.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Yes, this is definitely a shit post.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).

    They could be briefed on the bus.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, the protestors shouldn't be physically stopping the shutzstaffel from taking people to the camps. They should all get on busses for a two week round trip to inform the president that he violated the constitution when he sent in the marines and they would like him to stop now please if its not too much trouble.

    When will these fuvking politically incompetent lefties ever learn?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the same playbook they use. Russia do it, Germany do it, France do it, Canada do it, Israel do it.

    We saw congress representatives ignoring people questions, and sometime not even showing up for meetings.

    The whole idea is to represent people, but they ignore your voice.

    They take your right, they ignore your peaceful protest, and then criminalize your peaceful protest, then arrest you.

    When you try to resist symbolically “Thrown rock at a tank” they escalate the response and claim you are violent.

    Then they tell you “should protest peacefully” so they can again ignore you and retaliate silently.

    The US history is full with peaceful protest, useful protest did nothing and never done any thing useful.

    When the protest start taking rich people income that when we see a quick change.

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  • to represent people

    Yes, and in fact we're making little 3d printed commemorative statues of everyone who gets on the busses; one of each for each of us, plus one for the president! So he knows we mean business!

    but they ignore your voice

    Thats why the little statues and the silent protest. We've booked a closet across (the street) from the oval office to make our silence more poigniant, while standing with our lgbt brothers and sisters (but not other siblings. We don't want to make a bad impression!) This pride month.

    they take your right

    Lets see them try to take our right to remain silent then! I bet they cant! It's in the constitution!

    throw a rock at a tank

    No please. That's violent and scary and what a fascist would do i bet

    history is

    Fucking nerd

    i will literally send mecha-robespierre to murder you

    Reported for violence!

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  • [+] -70 points 1 year ago (36 children)
  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    If you weren’t there, what you mean is you haven’t been shown any American flags in the protests.

    https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3lr7cw5wlas2j

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/immigration-protests-threaten-to-boil-over-in-los-angeles

    Anyone who thinks there needs to be more American flags at the protests is welcome to bring them along with themselves. But sitting here criticizing the people actually off their ass and trying to protect democracy and their neighbors is bullshit.

    Further, the right is literally never going to see resistance to Trump positively. Anyone who has been on the Fox News drip for the past 20 years is so unhinged that living in California is a crime to them. Asking people whose neighbors and family members have been kidnapped by the federal government to hide their heritage in their protests because it might offend people that already hate them and want them gone is ridiculous. At least if you want to keep those people as allies.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    "Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?"

    🤡

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    You really have no clue how much American "patriotism" is looked down upon on this side of the pool, do you? Nationalism is a nazi thing, no one who opposes nazis here would use a national flag during a protest.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's heartwarming to see all the people from German instances show up to roast this dude.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Really? Which Protests do you mean? The vast majority of German flags I saw on anti Nazi demos in Germany had been mounted to Buildings or the hands of some Nazi Idiot at the counterprotest.

    Going one step towards the center of the political spectrum from the firmly left learning anti Nazi Demos, there are the anti AFD Demos which also attract(ed) people with far more moderate centrist political views than the average Antifa member, thus being more likely to support the idea of the state of Germany in its current form. Still, most flags you'd see were for pride / lgbtq+ or political organisations.

    You might see a German flag from time to time but i think it's just plain wrong to call it common.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) over having their Constitutional rights violated not protecting democracy?

    Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...

    Do you actually need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens can hold a Mexican flag in protest?

    If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.

    Then go fucking do it instead of being a keyboard warrior criticizing the people actually doing shit. Jealousy’s an ugly color.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Fascinating you could determine from the picture that all of the thousands of people who showed up only care about deportations.

    Thankfully the people of LA are’t stupid enough to fall for this bullshit. We see our neighbors with Mexican flags every day, it doesn’t make them belong here any less.

    Through all of these LA protest pictures, I see nothing but the flag of a foreign country...

    Babe you already did this. Scroll up and follow the links this time.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah, you’re not saying it. You just think no Mexican Americans, etc should show up with Mexican flags. Oh, also more American flags. What else to make the protest perfect so that no rightoid can say anything bad about it? Better get it all out here so the people can do everything perfectly to your standards.

    Talk is cheap and the criticisms of anyone not at the protests are worthless.

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    You want me to believe anyone in this country cares about "optics" when a man in orange make-up blathers on about nothing, live on television every single day.

    Nope, optics is just another scape goat that keeps lefties on the benches while the right is burning the constitution.

    Action > optics

    Force the rights hand. Its time.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Why tf would they carry an American flag at a protest. Thats stupid enough for me to assume you are a bot.

    Fucking Crayondevourer indeed

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  • [+] -27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I've seen a couple. They were getting burned. Nothing about it helps their cause any. They're declaring themselves enemies of America. Brain dead.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    You've got little concept of what their cause is. Their cause is "you've pushed us to the breaking point and this society is no longer worth enabling, the social contract is dead." It's not to make the liberals sad, it's to hit everyone who wants to enable the system through disruption until their grievances are acknowledged. That's always been the method of even the most peaceful of successful protest movements. The entire point is to flex political power(and I'm not talking about voting here), not hope some liberal gives them thoughts and prayers.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you truly think that, that it's so bad that the social contract is broken, then leave LA. Simple.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    "Just become a refugee if it's so bad, don't attempt political change. Or maybe just commit suicide." There's a reason nobody's actually giving a shit that you're not going to lend your support to them. It's always been obvious that your types are the ones that need to feel the disruption because empathy isn't a language you understand.

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  • [+] -34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You got downvoted but you're right

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    He's wrong by default because he fell for the LeftRightism demobilisation memes, but it is true that nearly all politicians work for the preservation of the status above all else. Those that performatively go against the grain, are tokenist politicians, like Noam Chomsky, serce the system by denouncing it. Autoflagellants.

    Now the way out of this is "Effective Action", organized, targeted, effective not demonstrative. The demonstration is the warning before action. The proof they mean business with barely contained violence.

    Try to follow at home! https://chatgpt.com/share/6848d77d-1450-8005-b187-e97fd78e5400

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