the "cheese" is freeze dried tofu, cashew butter, corn starch, nutritional yeast, soy milk, and vinegar

i live in nyc so i'm expecting the nypd to break down my door and arrest me for committing a hate crime against the entire Italian diaspora any minute now

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[+] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I was never a huge fan of cheese, and cheese substitutes or at least the ones that i tried are so much worse. Some of them taste well enough, but have a consistency that makes my skin crawl. So i just do no cheese and it's so much better imo.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not vegan but I was at a dinner party once and accidentally picked the vegan cheese platter instead of the normal one. It can't be that bad, I remember thinking.

    It was. I don't mind vegan food, there's a lot I like, but I think they would've been better off making something different instead of trying to imitate cheese.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago

    I've had some truly terrible vegan "cheese" (even some that was worse than the above tofu abomination) but also some really decent ones. Are they worth trying if you're not hilariously lactose intolerant or vegan? No. lol

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    It is a crime, but also a punishment.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    We sentence you too eating that whole thing.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago

    i was broke enough to make it when delivery lactose-free pizza was actually available despite it being 3am (i fuckin love nyc)

    you bet ur ass i ate all of it. not letting that protein go to waste

    (i mean it was edible enough i had it for breakfast this morning and wasn't too salty about it)

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    The important question: did it taste good?

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    I'm generally a lover of all food and a typical mistake I see is people trying make non-vegan dishes vegan.

    There's just no substituting real cheese on a hot dish. It's just one of those things.

    However there are plenty of great vegan and vegetarian dishes out there. And in my personal opinion, the simpler they are, the better they taste. No reason to bend over backwards to emulate cheese.

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    my reason was i wanted pizza at 3am

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You have to admire someone who wants pizza at 3am and actually does it from "scratch". I aspire to be like that. I just eat 45 olives.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I used to make a vegan lasagna that defies this claim. I am not sure I still have the recipe though

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    [X] Doubt (because of 'vegan cheese')

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    You replied to a comment about vegan cheese which seemed to imply your lasagna had vegan cheese.

    Without cheese it is a layered pasta dish that should have some other name.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I can see how you'd think that but I specifically meant that it wasn't bad just because it was an analog to lasagna. I don't need you to believe me that it was good and I am not particularly concerned with what you think it should be called

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    If you didn't use fake cheese then I am very inclined to believe it was good. There are tons of vegan dishes that I enjoy, just not the ones that have ingredients pretending to be non-vegan ingredients.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    When your name is mentioned in Little Italy, everyone spits on the floor.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    You could have gotten actual vegan cheese instead of trying to make your own. I hear it's quite good, too.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    It is! But it was 3 am and the grocery stores are all closed

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Wait what? I thought New York is the city that never sleeps?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why go so heavy on the improvised vegan cheese the first time? Tomato and BBQ base layer, onions, pineapple, sweetcorn, mushroom, whatever you like really. Maybe a light sprinkling of vegan cheese at most.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Godspeed and good luck. You'll need it!

    Less silly, I've heard how hard it is to get vegan cheese into any sort of tasty category. Wonder what it is about dairy that's so difficult?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You can do pretty well by introducing lactobacillus to very thin silken tofu and then aging it like normal cheese, but that’s something that would really be better at a commercial scale and afaik, it’s not really on the market yet.

    I live in Germany and they’ve absolutely nailed vegan cream cheese and have okay vegan shredded melting cheese, but I visited the us last year and the vegan cheese situation was dire. There might be gems out there that I missed, but everything was so expensive and tasted so hollow

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    is it like, all of the vegan cream cheeses are good or is it that one brand really figured it out and dominates the market (if so which brand as i have not eaten vegan cream cheese and if i'm gonna stay on top of the food chain i better get on it)

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Keep in mind that there are thousands of cheeses, all with varying methods of being made so trying to emulate any specific kind is going to be extremely difficult.

    Mozzarella, gouda, and queso for example are frequently melted but parmesan and blue cheese would make terrible substitutes for any of those three. Trying to replace any of those with some other substitute is like replacing zucchini with cucumber. Sure, they might look similar but the taste and texture are going to be off.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    🫵🫴🚪

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    We once accidentally bought a bag of preshredded mozzarella alternative. Missed the part where it wasn't real cheese. When we made lasagna, it crisped instead of melted. Kind of like some French fried onions on top I guess. It was delicious, but it wasn't lasagna

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I mix olive oil with nutritional yeast and add some onion and garlic powder + salt and white pepper. It's quite good! Adding vegan cooking cream will make the taste smoother. I also prefer to dribble the sauce here and there or use spoonfuls instead of spreading evenly. Definitely better than some of the cheese alternatives!

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Well, you can poison yourself as much as you want. Sounds disgusting, but who knows... Was it good? Because if it was, then you have done everything right -- the only important characteristic of the pizza is if it tastes good to the owner.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    But a cool knife you got there!

    (Although I pinch my knife so it wouldn't work for me but its pretty cool nonetheless)

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Illegal in the UK if its over 8", despite the fact that we use metric here the home office are still using inches for some reason. Annex A

    Over 8" - check (Assumed) Sharp point - check Has a portion of plain cutting edge - check Serrations - no, but it has holes instead Does it have more than 1 hole - check. Knife qualifies as a zombie knife.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't the UK use some bizarre amalgamation of metric, and imperial?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Sort of, its really odd. Normally products have to be sold in metric. You buy a jar of honey, its sold as 454g, which is 1lbs. Milk is similar, its a round number of pints but the label says how many litres that is. But other things are entirely metric, a loaf of bread is usually 800g, petrol is sold in litres. People that drive use miles for distances but you run 5km. Temperature seems to be going more and more towards metric. Old people use imperial a lot more though too.

    Ask someone their weight and you may get kg or stone as the answer. Stone being more likely the older they are.

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    [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm allergic to dairy and wheat, so if I want pizza I have to get this stuff:

    https://clocloveganfoods.com/

    It's not... horrible... I guess. It scratches the itch. But damn, I miss good pizza.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    It doesn't look that bad.

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