Aha, hand over hand, now I get to wax poetic about that.

Hand over hand steering was useful up until maybe the mid 1960s. Later, too, but after about 1967, power steering was becoming more the norm. Cars were far more likely to not have power steering. Instead, they employed lower range steering gear boxes and giant trash can lid steering wheels. In order to make a regular old 90 degree turn, you'd have to crank the wheel over way more than you do on a modern car, and the car was heavier, had steel wheels (more mass to move).

They continue to teach it today, because if your car loses power and/or shuts off (ICE cars especially, not impossible with EVs) or the power steering otherwise fails while you're moving, you're really going to want to know how to hand over hand steer. It's much more difficult to steer a car with power steering that's dead/broken than a car that just doesn't have power steering at all. Why they still demand it for drivers' tests on every turn, I don't know. You should be able to demonstrate that you can do it, but hand over hand steering on essentially every car today is more clumsy, as long as everything is working properly.

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If you mime driving a car, do you put your hands at 10 and 2? No, you'll probably do 9 and 3.

Only if that's the standard you were taught, and the cars that you learned to drive were ones where that made more sense. I mean, just look where Toonces puts his paws.

Amateur hour itt…

Yup, exactly this.

Coached race cars (and bikes) at tracks for years, and amateur raced for more than a decade.

Try just pushing (not pulling). You have a LOT more range and more comfortable control from 9/3 than 10/2

Drying a dinner plate was how my teacher described turning. Starting with both hands opposite (10/2 or 9/3 would work fine) - push with one hand and slide the other one towards it until they meet at the top, then switch which hand is holding and reverse the motion, so you end up doing both, but you never cross your hands.

10 and 2 (and now 9 and 3, though to a lesser extent) is just a visual indicator of what drivers you need to be extra wary of when they're around you

not all 9&3s are, but pretty much all 10&2s

and the 9&3s you don't have to worry about are very easy to identify, because they're not driving 53 in a 60 designed for 80km/h, unable to stay straight in the lane, and not staring dead ahead with dead eyes

You're all wrongz left hand 1:00 that's the correct way.

In a modern car, yes.

Yeah, I can see that, too. Definitely more than one additional injury risk that is easily mitigated by changing hand position habits. Totally makes sense that they changed the way driving is taught.

Keep your thumbs out of the center too

Can confirm

I vote for: 2:47:18.987 and 9:51:43.051

Makes you concentrate on driving! /s

With better control the airbags won’t go off.

You can have the best control in the world and still get rear-ended, T-boned, or otherwise crashed into by someone else. Defensive driving isn't 100% crash-proof and shit happens, my friend. There's a lot of dumb people on the road.

I thought the updated standard was adjusted for daylight savings time, making it 2100 and 0300.

I got thrown of thinking they meant 'til, but they mean TIL= Today I Learned

Ain't nothing stopping me from eating my burrito.

That's more for mad offroading, because the weight of the vehicle over terrain can lever the front wheels quickly enough to spin the wheel. Not impossible, but far less likely on pavement, even in any crash.

Steering stalks on my 2015 car are at 10/2.

Proper way sounds annoying. I prefer to have my hands further up, easier to rest them. I can still reach blinker/wiper though, just extend a finger

I went to a bar 3-4 times a week and it was the best period of my life. I then got other responsibilities and can no longer go.

Just don't get completely hammered every night